This is an archived list of new lifts built in the United States and Canada during the 2023 construction season. Last updated 10/23/2023.
Blue = Doppelmayr
Yellow = Leitner-Poma
Green = Skytrac
Red = MND
Purple = Partek
Orange = SkyTrans
Gray = Re-installations (used lifts)
White = To be announced
ATW = Aerial Tramway
CL = Chairlift
G = Gondola
SL = Surface lift
D = Detachable
F = Fixed grip
M = Monocable
P = Pulse
J = Jigback
B = Bubble
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New high speed six pack announced for Snowbasin.
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I saw construction on it while I was hiking the other day. Breakover towers and top terminal are all I could see. This was July 4
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Is Doppelmayr confirmed at Powder Monkey for 2023? If so, I’m going to be very happy
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Lift 4 detachable at Taos… 👀
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It’s about time. Will make lapping Kachina Peak a lot quicker!
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That’s sad to see Lift 4 go but its old but newer than the one in Santa Fe
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4 will get a new home.
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A new Leitner-Poma J-bar (Golden Horn) should be built at Aspen Highlands in 2023.
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A J-bar!? Great!! When was the last J-bar in North America built?
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Any information out there about the “Swiss cord” surface lift being built very soon at Sunrise in AZ? It’s been hard to find any details online about the specifics and how this type of lift differs from a normal rope tow or cable tow.
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I think “Swiss Cord” is just a fancy name for a normal rope tow, but I could be wrong
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Any idea what the alignment of the new knob chair at marmot will be? Cannot find any info online. It will be nice to see a new chair there, the knob was very, very, very, slow
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The following tweet shows the proposed alignment. https://twitter.com/thewilderxness/status/1587960393766690816?s=20
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I think the Demoisy Express is still missing from the database here.
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It’s definitely on there
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My mistake. I obviously don’t know how to read tonight..
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Happens to the best of us
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Sounds like Mammoth 1 has been postponed again due to manufacturer supply constraints. Canyon is still 2023 and D-Line.
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Everyone is booked solid for next year so its really unlikely that either manufacturer could handle another big 6-pack like Chair 1 but I also think that the main lodge rebuild is making them think twice about where to put it.
For context, Mammoth is planning a huge rebuild of the Main Lodge area, including:
– Tearing down the existing main lodge and replacing it (its really old…)
– Building a new village behind Main Lodge
– Rerouting the main road around said village (it goes right between bottom of 1 and bottom gondola)
– Replacing Gondola 1&2
– Building a separate ops building and employee parking around the bend.
Its a huge long-term plan for the area and I think that until all the permits are done and on the books they don’t want to sink money into replacing their primary out-of-base lift at Main until they are sure they won’t get it yanked at the last minute a-la-park city. I know there’s a land swap with the forest service over this but don’t know where that’s at. Mammoth also had some teeth-gnashing about Chair 16 because the new alignment impacts some white bark pine trees (which are endangered now) and that took a while to get cleared which is why only limited prep work for 16 was done this year.
Chair 16 is super important too because its the main lift out of Canyon Lodge but Canyon doesn’t usually open until just before the holidays so it has a little more wiggle room for delays , but a new chair 1 HAS to be ready by October to open the mountain on-time.
Both lifts are Doppel-Yans and they both 10-60 all the time but I guess they’d rather put up with Chair 1’s problems for a few more years than risk getting construction delayed for whatever reason(s) in 2023.
Granted not an apples-to-apples comparison since Mammoth is exclusively on USFS land and Park City isn’t but until the Main Lodge plans are fully fleshed-out they’re wary of being tied up in permitting on short notice.
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This is well said, and I think likely very accurate. I’d add that even if/when Chair 1 goes down, you still have the gondola and Ch 6 to provide a decent measure of capacity on roughly the same line. No such option for Ch 16 unless you want to do the Ch 17>4 two-step. The focus on the Main Lodge Village is also likely why things have gone really quiet on the plans centered around Eagle, including a new lodge and two-stage gondola from the top of 15 up towards Dave’s. That was always going to take a while to play out, but it has most certainly moved to the back of the line until the Main Lodge investment is well underway.
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Yeah eagle lodge’s “upgrades” have been kicked down the road for 20+ years at this point so I doubt that’s happening anytime soon, we’re stuck with the igloos until Main is fully rebuilt. 15 can get pretty backed up because its the only lift up from there, but I think the master plan had ideas for another lift out of eagle to get you to 25 or a trail back to canyon?
I would LOVE to see an eagle-to-summit gondola someday because it would make lapping Mammoths full 3000+ ft vertical a snap but that would probably add too much congestion to Eagle and beginners would have nowhere to go at the summit except for Roadrunner, which already gets crowded since its a skinny cat track. Midstation at top of 10 could work though since beginners can get off there and there’s mellower trail options from there.
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@MammothBOT98 I don’t think I’ve seen any plans with that second lift out of Eagle that went above Lake Mary Rd, so no ability to access Canyon from there. Wouldn’t be a bad idea in that it would relieve crowding and provide redundancy if 15 ever goes down. If I were them, I’d actually put a gondola starting there (not at the top of 15 where the master plan had it) and make it a two-stager with the second stage terminating at the top of 10. This would help get people out in the morning and you don’t really need a chair that badly b/c 15 isn’t a great lapping lift, particularly if they put in that dedicated beginner area in the plan (though that should extend to the base of current 25 and not just halfway like in the plan). It would also provide direct access to 5, 2, and 10, effectively enabling access to the whole mountain with 1 or 2 lift rides. Certainly no need to run it up to the summit and put more beginners in peril. Then you could move that 6 pack to somewhere it’s needed more – 1, 2, or 10 come to mind. Perhaps the new 25 alignment (per master plan) running from base of 9 to current summit terminal.
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That’s such a shame Canyon is going ahead while Broadway is on hold. If they could only complete one for next year, I would have it be Broadway due to its heavier usage, especially during low snow years.
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Nah, 16 is much more important. It’s the main out-of-base lift for Canyon Lodge, which is in turn the busiest lodge (it’s the starting point for about half of all the mountain’s skiers when it’s open). It’s also the only out-of-base lift at Canyon that provides direct access to chairs 2 and 10, which are the workhorses for moving across the mountain. It needs a lot more capacity than 1 does in the short term.
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Hard agree. And don’t forget direct access to 5 as well, which is a popular lift in its own right.
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Also gets you to 22 with a longer more fun run than via 8, and directly to chair 4/south park which is probably the most popular park at Mammoth mid-season. And 15 & 9, albeit via a long cat track.
Other lifts or even potential alignments couldn’t really do the same, other than a lift from Canyon directly to Lincoln peak. Which no one wants to see. 22 is an appropriate “skill check.”
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Kind of wild that Vail only appears to have two completely new projects this summer, when you remove Bergman at Keystone (a carryover) and the Whistler lifts which were originally going to Park City. Any others that I missed?
Gonna be a really great year for indy resorts.
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There is also a fixed grip Skytrac quad that is going on Kehr’s at Stevens Pass which is an entirely new project in addition to 5 at Breck and mountaineer at Attaish.
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Soooo…three.
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Vail holds a lot of responsibility for the situation. By ordering 21 lifts for 2022 out of nowhere and filling up the available slots, many of the resorts who wanted lifts in 2022 were forced to wait until 2023. Seeing the 2023 backlog starting to fill then caused other resorts who were contemplating future projects to go ahead and reserve a 2023 lift. Now, 2023 is filled and resorts who wanted lifts in 2023 are reserving them for 2024. It will take an economic hit to the industry to break this cycle at this point.
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I think it is safe to assume that the Thunder lift planned to be installed at Berkshire East will be a used Poma triple, as there are parts for one in the back of their parking lot. This includes towers, sheave assembly’s, and other no brainers that give it away.
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Can you tell whether it is an Alpha or Delta model?
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It’s the current Mountain Top triple, which it was the old B lift at now abandoned Ski Rio, so it is a bottom Delta drive.
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Unless it is a different lift than Mountain Top, then I don’t know
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Oh I found it! It is being relocated from Mountain Top at the same resort and being installed in 2024
It will be a 1983 Delta terminal
The lift’s terminal at now abandoned Ski Rio
The lift’s terminal in the new location (Mountain Top)
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I believe a while ago I found an image of the lift prior to its removal. The suspected lift was at a defunct ski area in Ontario. What stumped me was the fact that the lift appeared to be neither an alpha nor a delta. If I can find the image, I will add it to this page.
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I ended up finding the image. I’m going to assume it is a delta with a different enclosure up top: https://ontarioskilifts.files.wordpress.com/2019/09/unadjustednonraw_thumb_277.jpg
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I agree, I think it’s probably a prototype version of the Delta. The double at Saskadena Six, VT has a similar-looking terminal:
https://skiliftblog.files.wordpress.com/2017/11/img_5025.jpg?w=1988&h=1492
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It appears to be a hybrid of the Delta with the tension rails of an Alpha. My Delta (1981) has the motor room mounted on a pair of 20-metre I-beams, and the hold-down portal assemblies hung from the same. All move as one unit. These examples appear to have the motor room enclosure rolling separately on a pair of fixed carriage rails, and the hold-down assemblies don’t seem to move with the motor room.
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That would be the famous Lumberjack lift with 1st gen Poma falcon chairs and towers without lifting frames.
It’s a COOL lift!!
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First-generation *Arceaux* carriers- once again I will point out that just because someone called them that on skilifts.org does not mean that that was their actual name. But yes, it’s a cool lift, and I’m not just saying that because I maintain it :)
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They do look similar to falcon chairs. More angular towards the hanger. Poma also installed 2 falcon triples at Purgatory in 1982. Lifts 6 and 7.
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Here’s a prototype of the Alpha I found at Ski Rio, NM/Mohawk Mtn, CT)
Before leaving Ski Rio (abandoned and still has a Riblet double)
After relocation to Mohawk Mtn as the Deer Run lift
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There is also a chance that it would be a prototype to the Alpha, due to the age of the lift (the website I got the image from says 1983, so 40 years old). Does anyone know what year was the Delta discontinued???
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Idk what year it was discontinued, but Crested Butte has two 1983 Deltas (Gold Link/Painter Boy)
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1983 was the last year for the Delta. Three Alpha prototypes were also built during that year; two of them have been relocated but they are all still operating. They looked a lot different from the photo of the lift from Ontario, which I now think is a variation of the Delta model.
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What are the odds Silverton’s new lift actually gets built this summer?
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Where did you hear that Silverton was getting a new lift?
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They sent an email blast out. I got it in my inbox
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What is it going to be?
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They sent the email out on Feb 6th. It doesn’t say anything about specs, new/used, or manufacturer. There is a drawing of the lift line. It starts next to the creek east of the unload for the current chair. It unloads on the ridge to the east.
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They say “as early as next summer” so it doesn’t seem like it’s a sure thing. They also say they’re “seeking investors” which to me sounds like they don’t have funding yet for it.
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Lift line should be something like this
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My guess is they have a lift and the timing to get it up and running depends on weather and employees. There’s lots of snow at that altitude and they’d have to wait for it to go away, then the steepness and lack of roads would require extra time and energy to get the lift line cleared and ready for lift placement. I’m guessing due to weather it be hard to schedule the actual start/end dates.
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Will the tram at Sterling Vineyards run in a triangle like the current one?
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Yes
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Since it has multiple stations.
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Is D-Line Crest Express at Brighton still happening? There has been no announcement about it.
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It’s not abnormal for the announcement to come later in the current ski season, as long as the lift has been ordered from the manufacturer. Peter every year has to tweet that it isn’t a good idea to announce a new project on April 1st.
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Any news on the Seymour lift? Replacing Lodge/Brockton or a new lift?
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I think one of the doubles is being replaced. Probably Lodge. Trying to get more details.
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Any auto-bars this year, Peter?
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Omg I cannot wait for the first chairlift in the east with LPA quad chairs! (Although Gore will most likely go with Omega chairs because they have alot of them)
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God I hope ORDA doesn’t do what Peak Resorts did.
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I just read an article saying the recycled triple Segundo lift at Sunlight will be installed in 2024. Concrete work is planned for this summer and the assembly of the actual lift is scheduled for summer 2024. Next season will be Segundo’s 70th season although the lift has only been at Sunlight for the past 50 seasons.
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Where is the new quad at Tremblant going?
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Not sure the exact location, but I think it’s a real-estate access lift going in somewhere to the looker’s right of Portes du Soleil
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Are the two new Taos lifts a sure thing or more of a “most likely?”
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I think a for sure thing since Pioneer, a used Yan triple from Deer Valley is getting replaced with a new Leitner Poma triple and Lift 4 (one of the best Poma quad chairlifts I have seen) is getting replaced with a Leitner Poma detachable for the season. Eventually, lifts 2 and 8, are getting replaced in the near future possibly in between 2024 and 2034 with a base to base gondola (that’s what I heard). Sad to se 2, 4, and 8 chairs getting replaced. I am a fan of Poma falcon quad chairs.
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Yeah I saw that in the database. My question was more of whether there had been an official announcement, or if Peter had confirmed with a manufacturer or something? As much as you and I can see and hear and rumour and deduce, we can assume they’re happening, but until Peter writes an article on it, Taos has a press release on it, or we can visually see construction occurring, we can’t be certain, especially in today’s market.
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Is the old Jordan quad going in at Pleasant/Shawnee this summer? Still haven’t heard anything official nor is it on this list after the Barker 6 announcement.
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Peter, where did you happen to hear about the new lift at buck hill going in this summer? I am a bit surprised about this
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He often gets his information directly from the resorts or the manufacturers themselves.
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Ski Lakeridge in Ontario will be getting the old Adventure Express 6-CLD from Moonstone. To be removed from Moonstone in April 2023.
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Awesome news. Do you know the timeline for installation at Lakeridge?
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No idea. MSLM will be closing April 8 so I would assume Adventure 6 would be dismantled almost immediately by Poma as the hill will need to be re-graded for the new lift and the carpet moved over to Easy Street.
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It sounds like Park City might be getting the 8-CLD Silverlode Express this year
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Where would they get an 8-pack from this late in the season especially since the 8 pack already went to whistler?
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Eagle Express, too.
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Both projects are postponed indefinitely. They may never happen.
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Hi!
I would like one of the chairs from Kehr’s. Who would know and how can find out more. Thanks!
From an avid snowboard bum who has been riding stevens with friends and family for 20+ years.
I’ve got so many great memories on that chair and run, I would love to donate funds and/or purchase a chair.
Candice
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You’d need to contact Stevens directly; this is a lift database and news site, and not affiliated with any resort. Try this: https://www.stevenspass.com/footer/contactus.aspx
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Snoqualmie says that Sessel will be this year, while International is 2024
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Heard a rumour on Alpine Zone that Shawnee/Pleasant was installing the old Jordan Quad this year. Not sure if it’s an April Fools that got bounced around or if it’s genuine.
https://forums.alpinezone.com/threads/summer-2023-ski-area-improvement-projects.144250/post-1112547
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I checked with Boyne when I saw the post and that is not the current plan.
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Is the new homewood gondola going in this summer?
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That’s what Peter is showing. To me I will believe it when I see it. The proposed D-line lift is worth more than the whole ski area??
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Was at Homewood yesterday and no signs of any work started so far. The Madden triple chair is still sitting there as ever.
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Update, sounds like Homewood has a signed contract with Doppelmayr for this year.
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The Alpine Valley, MI Skytrac appears to be a late addition to the list and I don’t remember ever seeing or hearing an official announcement. I was skiing there in early March and they had survey markers on a lift line between the old Lift 2 & 3 centerpole Halls so it makes sense.
Hearing rumors that the Mt. Holly, MI HSQ replacement of Chair #6 may be pushed out a year. Can’t confirm or deny and haven’t been by the hill to see if they have started demolition work or not.
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Is Valemount surface lift happening this year?
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According to a local article, the aim is to have it running for 2023-2024. https://www.fitzhugh.ca/valemount-getting-a-ski-hill/
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Regarding Peter’s tweet that Alterra wanted to build 4 additional lifts in Summer 2023. Let’s guess what lifts they would be – my guesses are Rainer Express at Crystal Mountain, Broadway at Mammoth, Timber at Tremblant. That’s only three. Any thoughts on the fourth? Curious what people think of that list?
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Okay I’ll venture a guess.
– Rex at Crystal
– Broadway at Mammoth
– Heaven’s Gate at Sugarbush
– Tamarack at Stratton
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Tamarack is on the horizon, but it is unlikely Alterra would have built it this year regardless of the supply chain situation. The Liftline Lodge replacement project has yet to be finalized, and the developer will want a say in whether the lift comes across the road or not. Plus, longtime Stratton head Bill Nupp is retiring and they are focusing on the transition this summer.
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My counterparts at Crystal were pretty sure they’d be replacing chair 10 this summer, but that seems to have been postponed and, in addition, Peter’s spreadsheet has it happening in ’24. Two independent sources say it ain’t happening this year.
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Another thought was I have to think Sundown at Steamboat is high on the list.
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I highly doubt Sundown was ever planned for this summer with Mahogany Ridge and Wild Blue Stage II both already planned for years.
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Not to say that it isn’t high on the list, but I’d have to think it’s lower than those two and possibly lower priority than Sunshine II as well.
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Steamboat has approval to replace Sundown with a new lift and does not have approval for Sunshine II yet so I’m guessing that Steamboat will build Sundown first but not this summer.
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From a podcast with Dee Byrne today, it sounds like a detachable replacement for Subway and Meadow is high on Alterra’s list. Also Wa She Shu replacement with a six.
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A major player in the lift construction world is the fact that a very small percentage of ski areas build their own lifts anymore.
I am guessing 75% less than in 2000. At least here in the far west.
It would be interesting to know how many of the 2023 lifts are being installed by the Lift Manufacturer / Sub Contractor, compared to in house by the ski area??
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Sounds like Mammoth/Alterra are building new 16 themselves because the manufacturer doesn’t have the capacity at the moment. Not sure about anyone else.
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Dave had set the precedent of building lifts in-house as much as possible, granted we haven’t built any lifts in 10 years but I think the supplier struggles of last build season only reinforced the decision to keep it that way. Pretty cool that they’re gonna pull this off with a D-Line.
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That is cool glad to hear it. I hear Miro will be coming down to help?? I remember when I came down to help Heimo Build his first lifts by himself and Rusty was running the crane. Lifts 17, 18 and 19. Yikes, that was a long time ago!!!
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mammothbot98- Alterra tapped a very experienced construction manager to help out with this project; he happened to work at Doppelmayr for a long time. I imagine he should be fine. From a construction standpoint there’s really no difference in building a D-line versus anything else. Follow the assembly manual, get all your ducks in a row on the civil side, and so forth. It’s a big project but not beyond the scope of a good crew.
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So does Mt. Southington, CT. have a new lift going in for 23 to replace the recently removed Northstar double?
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If it’s not on the map or in the table, I’d doubt it. Not that Peter can’t be wrong, but I’ve found the new lifts pages to be pretty reliable this time of year.
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From another site, the new lift will be a Partek. Size unknown.
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Is Lee Canyon building a new lift?
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The Haul Rope for the new Pioneer at Winter Park has been delivered. 42mm diameter produced by Fatzer. Total length is 13,943 feet. Unfortunately it is the only major component of the lift that has been delivered, however most if not all of the lift line has been poured and backfilled. Based off work at the bottom terminal, the lift will feature an internal tension carriage, unlike sunnyside, where the whole terminal moves.
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Word on the street is the Mt. Holly Chair 6 / Lightning Express has been postponed until next Summer (2024). This is despite many of the components already having been delivered on-site this spring.
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I just drove by Mt Holly today and see no evidence of new lift construction. The Hall that is Lift 6 is still standing.
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Yeah heard it may be postponed a year. Parts are there somewhere.
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Pioneer at Winter Park is now Wild Spur?!?
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Yep. Little disappointed in the name. Could have themed it around the Vasquez area. Trapper themed maybe? After all, that’s who Vasquez was. Anyways, I guess Wild Spur and Wild Blue somewhat work together.
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Wait what’s Wild Blue? I thought that was at Steamboat.
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Tumbler at Wolf Creek is the old Comstock express from Northstar. I was told by a lift operator a lift was to be built this summer that had been purchased by Northstar early last season. I was wondering if the project was still scheduled but then saw the announcement today…
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That checks out. The bolt pattern doesn’t look quite right for new Doppelmayr towers. It does look to be getting new Doppelmayr chairs though.
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They got the towers and line equipment last summer from the removed lift at Northstar.
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Fixed grip lift though? The chairs look new. New fixed grip stations?
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Nice, A old UNI Detachable getting a 2nd lift rather than scrapped
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Well I guess its a completely new fixed grip for Wolf Creek now
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From looking at the webcams, is the new canyon express gonna have similar terminal enclosures to what sunday river has on their new D-lines?
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Yes. In-terminal chair parking.
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Merrill hill 2 get pushed back? 23/24 trail map came out for Sunday River and there’s nothing on the map for this lift. Baker 6 is on the map.
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The lift is done. There may not be enough houses built for it to be needed this winter.
https://x.com/sundayriver/status/1726643617127645467
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I was driving around Merrill Hill the other day. To me it looks like the trail infrastructure is not ready yet. Not all the bridges over roads have been built and there is still significant grading that needs to be done. No signs of snowmaking pipes or guns over there either.
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This year, the number of operating six packs in North America should exceed 100. If you include the seven chondolas with six-person chairs, we surpassed 100 last year. The past two years alone will have seen 27 built. The first went in at Boyne in 1991, and there was a decent gap before they caught on elsewhere. To date, it looks like not a single detachable six pack has been removed in North America, though many have replaced the earliest generation of high speed quads. For comparison, as of last year, there were somewhere over 600 double chairs in operation and over 400 high speed quads.
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Adventure 8 at Mount St Louis Moonstone is replacing a detachable six pack.
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Boyne’s six pack was actually built in 1992. Mount Orignal in Quebec got the first six pack in 1991.
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Ah, I was mistakenly US-centric in some of those statements. Very interesting the first six-pack replacement will be with an 8-pack.
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Hey Peter, just wondering when your timeline was when you were planning to make it over to Colorado to get pics of Steamboat, Aspen, Winter Park, Keystone, etc.
Can’t wait to see those new lifts!
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I would also like to know that.
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Right now scheduled for the first week of March. I am prioritizing eastern resorts which close first and the 9 mountains I still haven’t been to in Canada.
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These are, Canyon, Vista Ridge, Rabbit Hill, Eastlink Park, Mystery Mountain, Martock, and the 3 Yukon Resorts
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i find it funny when r-m’s beats peter to a place in north america
https://www.remontees-mecaniques.net/bdd/reportage-tsd6-skyliner-doppelmayr-8600.html
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Peter is one person who alone visits all new lift instillation and runs the site by himself, in comparison to R-M which has dozens of contributors, many based in North America.
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Peter’s pace of getting to new lifts has gotten pretty insane in recent years. I remember 5 or 6 years ago he’d get there after a season or two.. Now he’s there right after construction ends. Kind of wild.
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they also have the new fitzimmons 8
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New Bucksaw Express video at Sugarloaf
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