Steamboat, CO

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  1. powderforever45 October 17, 2019 / 6:57 am

    On this site there are many great pictures of lifts including the bell gondola, the Sunshine Triple, Elkhead Quad, Christe II, Christe III before it got new chairs,Building one of the original Pomas, and one of the Miner Denver’s with its original chairs.


  2. powderforever45 November 3, 2019 / 8:03 pm

    Hey Peter,
    Just an edit but you said in removed lifts the bell gondola was a four person one. It was actually a 6 person gondola. As said by the guy in the video you posted on this weeks news roundup and based on the video three people were sitting on each side of the gondola.


  3. Donald Reif December 22, 2019 / 9:55 pm

    Technically, the Storm Peak triple was never removed in 1992. It was simply shortened by 2,161 feet and renamed Four Points.


  4. Myles Svec August 25, 2020 / 1:41 pm

    Would clearing part of the old Arrowhead glade into a groomed black be a good idea? It could improve traffic flow at the end of the day for high intermediate/advanced skiers as another access point to the base of thunderhead such as vagabond. Or would this terrain not be suitable to turn into a groomed ski run or would be too steep? This could happen when they upgrade Thunderhead to a Six Pack.


    • argothor April 27, 2021 / 11:41 am

      Thinning the trees so that it is a glade run would be better than clearing it into a groomed run. But when they put in the second phase of the Wild Blue Gondola it is going to go pretty much right up a good portion of where the old Arrowhead lift, and Glades where, which will likely mean that some clearing will happen anyway.


      • Myles Svec April 27, 2021 / 11:48 am

        I think that terrain would be too low for a glade anyway. That is why I suggested a groomed run there.


  5. Henry T December 2, 2020 / 7:57 am

    Did any of the previous yan doubles or triples sell?


    • Myles Svec December 2, 2020 / 8:05 am

      The old Elkhead went to China Peak I’m pretty sure. Don’t know about the others though.


      • Donald Reif December 2, 2020 / 9:31 am

        Short Cut at Park City was formerly the Arrowhead here.


        • Myles Svec March 5, 2021 / 8:15 pm

          Also the Elkhead double went to Discovery at Winter Park.


      • Myles Svec March 22, 2021 / 1:32 pm

        The Cosmos double went to Barnstormer at Coffee Mill, Minnesota.


  6. Myles Svec December 11, 2020 / 10:08 am

    my Storm King / Morning side lift idea

    Yellow lines are potential ski runs

    Pink areas are potential tree thinning

    Purple lines are potential future lifts

    1. Morning side would become a 4,500 ft HSQ in a new alignment that goes farther down then existing triple. Morning side triple would be removed. Top terminal would be in the same place.

    2. Storm king lift would be a 3,800 ft long triple or HSQ potentially reusing Morning side but adding new towers and a new haul rope. Would run from bottom of new Morning side lift to top of a new peak. There would also be some hike to terrain.

    Both lifts would serve blue/black/double black terrain.

    The total area would be 678 acres for a SUP boundary extension.

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    • argothor April 27, 2021 / 11:53 am

      Myles I like your idea, but increasing the SUP boundary would require the USFS to agree, and they haven’t been all that keen on increasing ski area boundaries. They do, but grudgingly.


      • Myles Svec April 27, 2021 / 12:04 pm

        I have heard some locals talk about extending Morningside down farther into holy bowl like I showed on SUP. It would require a boundary extension but if it was for just the morningside area and not the second lift I planned out I think it wouldn’t be as big of a hassle to do.


        • argothor April 27, 2021 / 1:16 pm

          It looks like the current SUP boundary is far enough down the bowl that if Steamboat wanted to relocate the bottom of the Morningside lift by moving it about 0.15 miles further downhill they could do so without moving the SUP boundary.


  7. Myles Svec December 20, 2020 / 7:06 pm

    Here is a map of future lifts at steamboat I made

    Also I think that Wild Blue should be a 10 person D Line gondola instead of a 8 person gondola.


  8. Myles Svec December 24, 2020 / 3:46 pm

    Does anyone know where Steamboat would expand if Sunshine II and Pioneer aren’t enough? There is a lot of area under Sunshine and Sundown and to the right of Valley View but that is winter elk habitat so that probably wouldn’t fly.


    • Donald Reif December 24, 2020 / 6:33 pm

      Even if that was available for expansion, you’d need to find out where to run the lifts.


    • skitheeast December 24, 2020 / 10:39 pm

      I think there is a decent amount of underutilized terrain at Steamboat, and a couple of infill lifts would really help spread people out like an expansion would. Even minor additions, like a lift from the base of Morningside to Sunshine Peak or a lift from the base of Sundown to Rendezvous Lodge would make lapping some terrain a lot easier and help fully develop their existing footprint.


      • Donald Reif December 25, 2020 / 1:07 pm

        Put a lift running from the bottom of Sundown up to Rendezvous Saddle (running somewhere between Rolex and Lower High Noon) and you’d definitely have a small pod of five trails there. It would need to be a high speed quad to encourage people to use it instead of the Sundown Express.


  9. Myles Svec December 25, 2020 / 9:54 pm

    My idea for a Sundown infill lift

    It would be called beaver creek express after the nearby beaver creek.

    It would be a 1,800 pph high speed quad.

    It would run from base of Sundown to Rendezvous lodge.

    The yellow lines are potential new trails.


    • argothor April 26, 2021 / 6:59 pm

      Not a bad idea, but put the bottom of the lift close to the bottom of the Elkhead lift. Why? I like skiing the trees between Rolex and Lower High Noon, and putting a lift over those trees would ruin them. Run the lift up Rolex instead.


      • Mike B April 27, 2021 / 10:13 am

        Love the idea for this lift, as it would take pressure off of Sundown for traffic headed to Sunshine while also creating a nice, 900′ vertical, north facing pod that would feature a mix of terrain for all abilities and be great for lapping. But ultimately it feels like a luxury given all of the other priorities in the plan, so I’ll be surprised if we ever see this.


  10. Myles Svec January 3, 2021 / 8:24 pm

    I spoke to the people that are doing the new pioneer lift and they said it won’t happen until everything else on the master plan is done. The fish creek egress is done already they said and I’m going to check tomorrow if ski bridge is built because I’m pretty sure it is.


    • Myles Svec January 3, 2021 / 8:30 pm

      Also on the new pioneer terrain if you accidentally go outside of boundary it’s really easy to get cliffed out. That’s why they are making a better ski patrol building. Terrain will be all blacks and double blacks.


  11. Myles Svec January 31, 2021 / 11:50 am

    My Predictions of timeline for new lifts at Steamboat

    2022, 2023 Sundown 6 pack replacement

    2022, 2023 South Peak HSQ replacement

    2022, 2023 or 2024 Wild Blue gondola.

    2022, 2023, or 2024 new Bashor lift.

    2022, 2023, or 2024 small lifts at WIld Blue midstation and the surface lifts.

    2025 Thunderhead 6 Pack Replacement

    2027 Sunshine II HSQ

    2030 Pioneer II HSQ

    Storm Peak and Morningside will probably get upgrades sometime in between. Bar UE and Burgess Creek probably wont be upgraded for a while. Priest Creek will probably be removed when Sundown 6 is built. Elkhead could be replaced with a 6 pack and the HSQ moved over to replace south peak. Sunshine will need a new lift at some point also.


  12. Myles Svec February 13, 2021 / 6:19 pm

    Some Pictures of the Stagecoach Gondola


    • Ryan February 13, 2021 / 9:16 pm

      Bell sure knew how to make a great looking Gondola/Gondola Cabins


  13. Myles Svec February 13, 2021 / 10:07 pm

    Here is the original Christie I lift

    On Colorado ski history it says this lift is a Roebling but the spreadsheet says it’s Cosmos so which one is it? Also is it just me or does it look like the chairlift here got Yan grips?

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    • Ryan February 13, 2021 / 11:49 pm

      Almost looks like an old Telecar..


  14. Utah Powder Skier April 13, 2021 / 8:32 pm
    • Cameron Halmrast April 13, 2021 / 9:44 pm

      That looks like Vail!

      Liked by 1 person

      • pbropetech April 14, 2021 / 1:59 pm

        I agree. Looks like old chair 2.

        Liked by 1 person

        • Billy B. April 14, 2021 / 3:12 pm

          Good catch on this one. I will see about updating the image description in Mountain Scholar


        • Utah Powder Skier April 14, 2021 / 3:29 pm

          Were there other center pole Riblets at Vail other than chair 2?


  15. Grason Che April 21, 2021 / 6:24 pm

    Things I think Steamboat should do

    1. Upgrade the morning side lift because right know it is a slow 3 seater with a high demand.

    2. Add more long green/beginner trails.

    3. Get rid of Lil’ Rodeo Park and move it somewhere else because it takes up half of the stampede run.


    • Mike B April 27, 2021 / 9:44 am

      I want a pony!

      Where would those “long green/beginner trails” go?

      And is Morningside really a priority given all of the other needs on the hill?


      • Myles Svec April 27, 2021 / 9:58 am

        Morningside really needs a capacity upgrade with a faster lift due to how many people go there. Often lines will be something like this:

        I think Morningside should be upgraded to a HSQ with a longer alignment farther down into Holy bowl.

        Lil rodeo park should honestly be moved because there is a need of more base area and spreading out skiers coming down the mountain. Places to put this park could include the lower part of Skeeter’s run because they have had parks there in the past, one of the runs on Sunshine, or even at the new learning center that will be built.


        • Mike B April 27, 2021 / 11:03 am

          Don’t disagree that Morningside gets crowded, but I’d rate Wild Blue, Sundown 6 and frankly Sunshine II as higher priorities for spreading out the crowds. Frankly, getting stuck in a big line on Morningside says more about the skiers there than it does about the quality of the terrain available in that pod. It’s 500 vertical, the bottom half of which is a flat run out, and there’s just 1 triple chair there for egress – do the math.


        • Myles Svec April 27, 2021 / 11:20 am

          I would disagree with you saying the runout is flat. If you ski skier’s right of the lift it is but not if you ski skiers left of the lift. Everyone goes to Morningside because it probably has the best snow quality consistently all day.

          First stage of Wild Blue is being built next year so Wild Blue is definitely higher up. I’m guessing next priorities after Wild blue stage I is the new learning center, then a sundown upgrade, then Wild blue second stage, then a thunderhead replacement, then either Sunshine II or Pioneer Lift. Your right about Morningside not being a high priority but it should be.


        • argothor April 27, 2021 / 11:33 am

          The other reason to go to Morningside is because it is the easiest way to get to the Chutes, Christmas Tree Bowl and Gully and the runs that go off of the top of Mt. Werner.


        • Ryan April 27, 2021 / 7:07 pm

          Upgrade morningside to a HSQ, relocate the morningside triple to replace Bashor double- (if needed?)


        • Myles Svec April 27, 2021 / 7:59 pm

          I would guess they would go with a more beginner friendly lift on Bashor since Morningside comes around very fast and bangs the back of your legs into it if you don’t sit down fast enough. That could be because of speed though. Also Morningside is already 25 years old and if it is going to sit at Bashor for another 25 years it would likely be a new lift. A Morningside replacement is not on master plan so it likely won’t happen soon but you never know, Alterra changes things around.


  16. Myles Svec June 4, 2021 / 2:47 pm

    Just learned some info about the Wild Blue announcement.

    The announcement will be in July next to the Torian Plum condos which are near the Christie III lift. The gondola will have both its stages the first stage built one year and I assume the second stage will be built the following year. Both stages of gondola are confirmed to be built.


  17. Myles Svec July 29, 2021 / 10:19 am

    Does anyone have pictures of the Storm Peak platter or WJW lift?


  18. Myles Svec August 27, 2021 / 12:33 pm

    Could Steamboat expand night skiing with the addition of the Wild Blue gondola or would it not be profitable enough?


    • Mike B August 27, 2021 / 3:38 pm

      Not sure what would be the point. There’s nothing that can be accessed by Stage 1 of Wild Blue that can’t already be accessed by Christie via Main Drag or Boulevard. And then if you’re talking about Stage 2 to the summit, that’s crazy talk. The expense of light installation, running a massive 2 stage gondola another 4-6 hrs/day and the likely public backlash given how it would be visible from the entire valley wouldn’t be worth the effort.


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