2019 New Lifts

This is a list of new lifts likely to be built in North America during the 2019 construction season.  Last updated 12/7/2018.

Blue = Doppelmayr
Yellow = Leitner-Poma
Green = Skytrac
Brown = LST Ropeways
Purple = Partek
Black = SkyTrans Manufacturing
Gray = Re-installations (used lifts)
Red = To be announced

CL= Chairlift
G = Gondola
SL = Surface lift
D = Detachable
F = Fixed-grip
M = Monocable
P = Pulse

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65 thoughts on “2019 New Lifts

  1. Peter Landsman May 29, 2018 / 7:14 am

    From RiverWalk at Loon Mountain: “The gondola will not be built [in 2018]. This will be part of the phase 2 build which is slated to start in Spring of 2019. We unfortunately do not have an exact date yet on when the gondola will be completed.”

    Was originally announced for 2017: https://www.prweb.com/releases/2016/04/prweb13350549.htm

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    • Collin Parsons October 8, 2018 / 11:13 am

      The gondola can’t be completed until the South Peak beginner complex is finished since it connects to it. That could be a 2019 project. Loon really needs more beginner terrain and parking.

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    • Peter Landsman May 30, 2018 / 4:02 pm

      I received the below statement from Sun Valley Resort earlier this spring:

      “This summer we will be preparing the terrain and infrastructure for the new lift installation. It likely will not be complete until summer 2019. However, this winter we will be offering guided tours of the new terrain that the lift will access.”

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      • Wood River Trails May 30, 2018 / 7:16 pm

        Do you know if the current lift will be removed, or still run next season?

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      • Thomas Jett May 30, 2018 / 7:57 pm

        There’s no way that they can remove Cold Springs this year. That and Mayday are the only two ways to get from the backside to the rest of the mountain.

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  2. Carson June 14, 2018 / 12:41 pm

    Just so you know sunrise at solitude is going to be replace in 2019 with a high speed quad

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    • Mike B June 14, 2018 / 6:45 pm

      I don’t get that one. They’d be much better off replacing Powderhorn with a HSQ and then moving it over to Sunrise if they want more capacity over there. Powderhorn is painfully slow.

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      • Thomas Jett June 14, 2018 / 7:01 pm

        I think that it’s them getting ready for One Wasatch.

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      • RMurphy September 12, 2018 / 4:12 pm

        Target market at Soli is families. Sunrise has some great cruisers, but it doesn’t make sense to spend much time over there because that lift is painfully slow too. Especially now that a Honeycomb lap no longer requires a Powderhorn trip, it can hold on a while longer.

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      • Mike B September 13, 2018 / 11:52 am

        That’s fair. Hopefully new Sunrise will spread out the weekend/holiday crowds a bit. No one on that lift since the new Summit lift was put in with direct access from Apex.

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  3. Carson June 14, 2018 / 5:17 pm

    The general manager. They are still waiting for approval.

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    • Peter Landsman June 14, 2018 / 6:34 pm

      Thanks. I don’t see it on the Forest Service SOPA site yet.

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  4. onewasatch=trash June 16, 2018 / 2:43 pm

    Fuck One Wasatch I hope that shit never gets pushed through. Absolutely unnecessary

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    • Cooper June 16, 2018 / 6:29 pm

      Why? I mean it takes a hour to get from Canyons village to park city base by chairlifts. But skiing 6+ resorts with a single pass saves insane amounts of money. And if it were to happen it would probably create the largest resort in the world. I think. The major downside I can see that you would probably spend half of your ski day riding lifts to where you want to ski/board

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  5. Jonathan July 1, 2018 / 9:06 pm

    I heard a rumor that Loveland will replace Lift 6 with a new triple chair in 2019 or 2020

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    • Boardski August 25, 2018 / 4:50 am

      It would be great if Loveland installed another high speed detachable quad to replace the rest of lift 2 and extend it to the top of Ptarmagin. Ptarmagin could then be relocated to replace 6.

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      • Sean Kutter September 25, 2018 / 5:05 pm

        The just built Ptarmigan in 2015, so they are not going to relocate that lift any time soon. I always thought that it would be cool if they replaced 6 with a high speed that has a line angled a little more to lookers right, ending up near Porcupine Saddle. It would open up much more of the bowl, and there would be an easy way to get to the current top of 6.

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    • Thomas Jett July 8, 2018 / 1:48 pm

      I’m not sure how well the changes are going to go. LA skiers have never seen a loading carpet, and they had to get rid of 90º loading on 15. Additionally, moving the terminal to the north is going to cause a lot of crowding at the unload.

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      • Mike B July 9, 2018 / 3:19 pm

        Not sure I agree on the latter claim. By eye-balling, it appears they want to move the terminal to just before the intersection with Spook. Lower level skiers/riders would still have easy, direct access to Easy Rider if they are headed to parts East. IF they want to go back to towards Canyon, then they are simply 150 ft further than before along the same trails. What this does is space out the summit terminals of 16 and 4 somewhat to help reduce crowding in that direct area. It may also encourage people to take Solitude down to the base of 5 vs.fighting the crowd on Easy Rider. Certainly the increased capacity will increase crowding, but I don’t see the terminal locations as feeding into that.

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      • Thomas Jett July 9, 2018 / 7:36 pm

        No, they’re moving the terminal north, not uphill. The new terminal would be around halfway between the top of 4 and the old top terminal.

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      • Mike B July 9, 2018 / 8:12 pm

        Ah. Of course. My bad. Yeah – have to agree with your take here Thomas. Not sure how this well help anything in that area.

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  6. Michael B August 23, 2018 / 8:35 am

    Watch for a used BM lifts quad recently removed this summer from Mount St Louis Moonstone in Ontario. Not sure if they are selling, but it would have fairly low hours as it ran parallel to two Poma HSS for the last 15 years. It was maybe used for 10 days a season since then. It would be a great buy for a small hill.

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    • reaperskier August 23, 2018 / 10:23 am

      That lift would be venture, right?

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      • Michael B August 23, 2018 / 11:03 am

        Yes. They removed the lift and regraded the hill to the elevation of the top of Adventure

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      • reaperskier August 23, 2018 / 12:50 pm

        I’m thinking that chicopee could use the venture quad for their sugar bowl area, which hasn’t had a lift since 2012 or 13.

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  7. Jonathan Pierce September 1, 2018 / 9:22 am

    Do you think that Park City may relocate the old High Meadow lift to go to Woodward Park City?

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    • Peter Landsman September 1, 2018 / 9:29 am

      It was still in the Cabriolet parking lot as of a few weeks ago. Woodward Park City is a Powdr project so it would be a sale. Vail could send it to Afton Alps or Jackson Gore at Okemo. Outside of Vail, Crystal Mountain has wanted to build a longer and higher capacity Discovery.

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    • Collin September 1, 2018 / 11:44 am

      Being a late model used lift, I’m sure there are multiple mountains bidding to buy it if Vail hasn’t already decided they’re keeping it
      Okemo is an all Poma mountain so it’s not going there being a CTEC.

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      • Collin September 1, 2018 / 12:59 pm

        The Doppelmayr rarely runs and is possibly the next lift they’ll replace.

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      • reaperskier September 3, 2018 / 7:36 pm

        Is there a possibility that the green ridge triple will be replaced with a bubble lift?

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        • Peter Landsman September 3, 2018 / 7:41 pm

          Rob Katz (Vail Resorts Chairman & CEO) isn’t necessarily on the bubble train. From a profile in Men’s Journal: “He thinks the bubble has some flaws. For one thing, he tells me as the lift carries us up to Lookout Peak, the plastic shields are prone to scratching. There are also social and psychological challenges to consider: What if two people are freezing and want the bubble down, but the third rider is claustrophobic? “Some people really like the bubble,” Katz says. “Some people really don’t like the bubble.”
          https://www.mensjournal.com/features/king-of-the-hill-how-vail-resorts-conquered-the-ski-industry-w469851/

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      • Collin September 4, 2018 / 9:26 am

        The bubbles wouldn’t get scratched if he put them inside at night like you’re supposed to. Mount Snow still parks them inside every night and they remain in immaculate condition.

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  8. Michael September 4, 2018 / 9:38 am

    They don’t get scratched by being left outside at night. They get scratched by acts of vandalism…

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    • Collin September 4, 2018 / 10:05 am

      And most of that “vandalism” is people trying to knock ice off with their ski poles that accumulated on the bubbles overnight.

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      • Michael September 5, 2018 / 9:12 am

        I’ll give you 50% for that reasoning.

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    • Andy October 27, 2018 / 8:35 pm

      The new Chair 6 at Horseshoe in 2019 will be built by Leitner Poma. Horseshoe resort had a single Leitner Poma Quad chair in their r booth at the Toronto Ski Show this weekend (Nov 27-28) and The Horseshoe manager in the ski show booth told me that the contract has already been signed with Leitner Poma \Canada for the new install.

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      • Peter Landsman October 27, 2018 / 8:39 pm

        Thanks Andy. Leitner-Poma is sure off to a strong start for 2019.

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      • reaperskier October 28, 2018 / 6:10 am

        What other installs could happen in ontario for 2019/2020?

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  9. GEORGE T September 19, 2018 / 9:03 am

    Peter, Could you add a column to the spreadsheet with a date indicating when announced or added to list?

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  10. Carson September 25, 2018 / 6:17 pm

    Brian Head ski resort is planning a lift removal and replacement for Navajo lift in 2019.

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    • Peter Landsman September 25, 2018 / 7:10 pm

      Interesting. Have a source on that? I don’t see it on the Dixie National Forest SOPA yet.

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    • Peter Landsman September 25, 2018 / 9:28 pm

      I received the following from Brian Head: “Replacement of Navajo is a possibility, but nothing is concrete yet.”

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      • reaperskier September 26, 2018 / 6:16 am

        If they were to go remove the navajo lift, what would they replace it with?

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  11. Duncan October 8, 2018 / 8:29 am

    Wait, They’re building a pulse chondola? Has that ever been done before?

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  12. alex October 16, 2018 / 9:11 pm

    Informed speculation on what I believe Vail will announce in December for lift upgrades next summer.

    Interested in your feedback

    Beaver Creek – Install Strawberry Park 8 Passenger Gondola (2400 PPH)

    Vail – Replace Game Creek with HSS (3000 PPH)

    Whistler – Replace 7th Heaven with HSS (3000 PPH)

    Breckenridge – Replace C-Chair with HSQ (2400 PPH)

    Keystone – Replace Wayback with HSS (3000 PPH)

    Park City – Sunrise Express HSQ (2400 PPH)

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    • Collin October 16, 2018 / 9:27 pm

      I’m not sure if Breckenridge or Keystone will be getting anything. I also think Sunrise will end up being a gondola if it is to function primarily as an access lift. I also expect to see Stowe on the list. They became Epic around the same time as WB, and the Fourrunner Quad gets slammed. I think replacing the nearby Lookout Double with another high speed quad would be the best solution.

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      • alex October 16, 2018 / 9:40 pm

        Your comment on Stowe makes a lot of sense to me. I have never skied there but was always curious why they did not replace Fourrunner with a Six Pack as it felt like that trail pod could handle 3600 PPH. I wonder if Lookout or Mountain upgrade is more likely. Looking at the trail map I was thinking the latter.

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      • Collin Parsons October 16, 2018 / 10:00 pm

        The previous owners thought that the capacity of a 6 pack would “ruin” the feel of the terrain. I think that a 30 minute line out of the ropes “ruins” the experience more. Mountain is getting a new haulrope so it’s not going anywhere. Lookout serves more terrain so replacing that would take more people off of Fourrunner. A similar upgrade was done at Northstar where instead of replacing the Backside Express, another high speed quad was installed on a nearby alignment called the Promised Land Express. What will also be interesting is if Vail slaps the “express” designation on Stowe’s lifts like they did at Park City.

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    • Mike B October 17, 2018 / 12:11 pm

      Suspect we’ll see Forerunner converted to a HSS, with the current machine moving over to become the new Lookout. Downside is that this increases uphill capacity in relatively small area by 67%. Will likely make Lord and Sunrise an utter junk show as the only non-expert ways out of that area.

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      • Mike B October 17, 2018 / 12:12 pm

        Forgot about Toll Road, but the point still stands.

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      • Collin October 17, 2018 / 12:51 pm

        I doubt Fourrunner is going anywhere. It’s still basically brand new and replacing it with a HS6 would make replacing Lookout unnecessary. Installing a new high speed quad on Lookout would be cheaper and just as effective. It would also cause less trail crowding issues because people wanting to ski the trails below it would take Lookout and then not crowd Lord and Sunrise. It’s also easier to get to Lookout than Fourrunner if coming off of Toll House.

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  13. alex October 16, 2018 / 9:12 pm

    And now for Alterra Upgrades

    Mammoth Mountain – Replace Chair 16 with HSS (3600 PPH)

    Squaw Valley – Replace Red Dog with HSS (2400 PPH) and Hot Wheels with HSQ (2400 PPH)

    Winter Park – Replace Pioneer Express with HSQ (with new mid-load station) (2400 PPH)

    Steamboat – Install Bashor Gondola (and associated infrastructure) (2400 PPH) as well as cabin replacement on existing Gondola

    Deer Valley – Replace Mayflower with HSQ (2400 PPH)

    Tremblant – Replace “Le Soleil” with new HSQ (2400 PPH)

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    • Collin Parsons October 16, 2018 / 9:29 pm

      If Pioneer and Le Soleil are replaced, they will be 6 packs with a capacity of at least 3000/hr. Both serve auxiliary trail sections, but are the only lift serving a large amount of acreage. The Sunshine 2 lift will also be something to look for at Steamboat.

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      • Lucas DR October 17, 2018 / 8:43 am

        Doubt Le Soleil will be a HSS . It may be a lot of terrain, but only really the runs are skiable. The natural fall lines are already runs, and the southern exposure really limits snow accumulation so what is there off-piste is often very rocky.

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      • Collin October 17, 2018 / 10:25 am

        The point is there is a lot of trail acreage over there and only one lift. There wouldn’t be any issue with a capacity of 3000/hr over there. When replacing a lift, it also looks better when moving up in chair size. Tremblant is Canada’s 2nd most visited resort (behind Whistler Blackcomb) and they are long overdue to have high speed 6 packs.

        The other lift that Tremblant will need to replace at some point is Duncan which is a 1991 high speed quad that often has long lines. The replacement of Lowell Thomas will help with that somewhat, but I expect its eventual replacement to have a capacity of 3600/hr or more.

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      • Mike B October 17, 2018 / 12:20 pm

        I don’t think Sunrise 2 is something to look for in the near term. In their latest MDP update, Bashor gondola/learning area and Pioneer Ridge. Strangely, Sunrise wasn’t even mentioned/included in the January 2018 EIS, so that seems to be on a delayed timetable. The change in plans on on Elkhead from a HSS to HSQ would tend to support that interpretation – less of a need to bring everyone back north to Thunderhead.

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    • Duncan October 18, 2018 / 10:14 am

      How about Powdr Co?

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  14. Jonathan October 17, 2018 / 3:38 pm

    What are they going to be doing at Utah Olympic Park?

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    • Peter Landsman October 17, 2018 / 3:40 pm

      Good question. They have Deer Valley’s Homestake quad sitting in a parking lot. Anyone know the plan for it?

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