2024 New Lifts

This is a list of new lifts likely to be built in the United States and Canada during the 2024 construction season.  Last updated 7/18/2024. Have an addition or correction? Comment below or email Peter@liftblog.com.

Blue = Doppelmayr
Yellow = Leitner-Poma
Green = Skytrac
Red = MND
Purple = Partek
Orange = SkyTrans
Gray = Re-installations (used lifts)
White = To be announced

ATW = Aerial Tramway
CL = Chairlift
G = Gondola
SL = Surface lift
D = Detachable
F = Fixed grip
M = Monocable
P = Pulse
J = Jigback
B = Bubble

236 thoughts on “2024 New Lifts

  1. haydenklev5's avatar haydenklev5 July 18, 2022 / 5:50 pm

    whats the “one and only” gondola at big sky???

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    • Montana Powder Skier's avatar Montana Powder Skier August 3, 2022 / 11:23 pm

      I didn’t know there was a such thing as a d-line 8 person gondola. Glad to see that Big Sky is getting the first one😊.

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    • Roger's avatar Roger February 25, 2023 / 1:34 pm

      BS or its capital partner is planning a hotel of some sort over by Moonlight called the “One and Only”. This gondola is probably an access lift. So I don’t think it will supplement the meager lift system at Moonlight or alleviate the 100% dependence on the Six Shooter lift at that resort.

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      • Bob's avatar Bob February 25, 2023 / 3:34 pm

        Seems kinda confusing to call it the “one and only gondola” when they are installing two other gondolas that year. It seems like they could have come up with a better name that would be less confusing.

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        • ShangRei Garrett's avatar ShangRei Garrett February 25, 2023 / 3:45 pm

          One&Only is a luxury resort brand that is building the development that will have a gondola connecting it to Moonlight Basin

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      • ShangRei Garrett's avatar ShangRei Garrett February 25, 2023 / 3:48 pm

        It’s not intended to supplement Six Shooter; in fact, I’m not sure if it’s being funded by Big Sky/Boyne at all, or if One&Only, the resort company, is paying for it itself, but it definitely is only an access lift

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        • Bob's avatar Bob February 25, 2023 / 5:46 pm

          I don’t think BS is paying for it, as there’s nothing about it on its website (unlike its other lift projects).

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  2. Chairlift mania's avatar Chairlift mania July 21, 2022 / 3:25 pm

    I think purgatory’s getting the quad in 2024.

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    • ShangRei Garrett's avatar ShangRei Garrett July 21, 2022 / 8:51 pm

      What quad?

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        • Peter Landsman's avatar Peter Landsman July 22, 2022 / 12:50 pm

          Heard there is a third project in play replacing Lift 4 with a high speed quad. Nothing official in the Forest Service system yet though.

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      • pbropetech's avatar pbropetech January 6, 2023 / 8:33 pm

        Last I heard it is Telluride’s old chair 9. I think Purgatory has a few more hoops to jump through but it should be happening in the next couple of years.

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        • ShangRei Garrett's avatar ShangRei Garrett January 6, 2023 / 10:06 pm

          I assume you mean they’re using the old 9 for Ice Creek, right? I can’t imagine they would replace twilight with a used fixed-grip, and Gelande is probably going to be the last of the three projects

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        • pbropetech's avatar pbropetech January 7, 2023 / 6:03 pm

          Yes, I wasn’t clear. I was responding to Chairlift Mania’s comment.

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  3. kiroro's avatar kiroro August 10, 2022 / 10:48 am

    Hows the sun peaks west bowl quad doing?

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  4. snowbasin local's avatar 9412vcummins August 14, 2022 / 1:56 pm

    Where did you hear about this “ridgeline” chairlift at snowbasin? Littlecat is being replaced by a combination chairlift?

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  5. Andy's avatar Andy January 6, 2023 / 8:16 pm

    Currently being sourced and priced from the two major Lift Manufacturers: A replacement for Arrowhead: a 1988 Dopplemayr Quad chairlift, length 2440 feet, vertical 530 feet at the Alpine Ski Club in Collingwood Ontario. (data from Skilifts.org. Replacement timeframe from Alpine’s 2022 member yearend magazine.

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    • reaperskier's avatar reaperskier January 7, 2023 / 5:57 am

      Guessing Alpine Ski Club wants to replace Arrowhead with a modern fixed grip quad from Dopp or LPA, with Skytrac as a wildcard option. I doubt it will be a high speed quad with a mid-unload station.

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      • Andy's avatar Andy January 7, 2023 / 6:56 pm

        Correct Arrowhead won’t be a high speed quad , but they do want to move the mid unload station higher up the hill and also raise (fill in a dip in the ground) and move the bottom station uphill level with the bottom terminal of 2002 Dopplemayr CTEC Six Pack not too far away.

        The next high speed quad at the Alpine Ski Club in Collingwood will be in the 2028 range to replace the Millenium Quad in the North section of the Club.

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        • reaperskier's avatar reaperskier January 7, 2023 / 8:26 pm

          Is there the possibility for a loading conveyor on the replacement Arrowhead lift? Also, why is the club planning on relocating the midstation?

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        • Andy's avatar Andy January 10, 2023 / 7:59 pm

          Management at the Alpine Ski Club has not released any amount of detail on location on 2024 Arrowhead Quad midstation location, but typically the reason why ski resorts move terminal locations when rebuilding is to get better or different use out of the ski acreage available.

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        • Andy's avatar Andy November 25, 2023 / 6:49 am

          I was talking to a Maintenance Manager at the Alpine Ski Club in Collingwood last week. 2024 replacement of the Arrowhead Quad will be a Doppelmayr. The mid station will get a second mound uphill from the first one so that if kids miss the first offload, the chair can be run in slow mode to get the child to the second ramp for safe removal from the chair. Nice idea

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        • reaperskier's avatar reaperskier November 25, 2023 / 9:28 am

          Guessing it’s probably going to be an Alpenstar. Also wondering if the midstation on the new lift will have half and/or split towers.

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  6. Joey's avatar Joey January 8, 2023 / 9:37 am

    In 2024, a new high speed quad, (Shadow Mountain) should be built to replace the SLI-RIBLET Shadow Mountain Double at Aspen Mountain, CO. No info on who’s going to manufacture it.

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  7. Bob's avatar Bob January 10, 2023 / 9:37 am

    Which resort in Austria is the Eaglecrest gondola coming from?

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  8. skitheeast's avatar skitheeast January 27, 2023 / 12:24 am

    Brian Head announced in the Salt Lake Tribune that the first lift(s) for Aspen Meadows will be installed in 2024. Logically speaking, it will likely be Stage 1 (and maybe Stage 2) of the gondola.

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  9. Philip Jonathan Keeve's avatar Philip Jonathan Keeve February 26, 2023 / 1:14 pm

    Sunshine Village has now officially re-branded as Banff Sunshine Village.

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    • Chairlift World's avatar Chairlift World August 17, 2023 / 5:42 pm

      They basically kept the original name but added on to it

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  10. The Skier's avatar The Skier March 3, 2023 / 4:51 pm

    Will the One & Only Gondola at Big Sky have the boxy R2 style glass enclosures like the Explorer Gondola?

    It would be cool to have both gondola terminals match and then have all the bubble lifts use the standard D-Line terminal with the screen on the end

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  11. SKIID's avatar SKIID March 13, 2023 / 12:55 pm

    Nothing has been said locally about Mt Spokane replacing Vista Cruiser. Since it’s in a State Park, it’s usually big news.

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    • Chase's avatar Chase March 13, 2023 / 1:16 pm

      It’s not confirmed. Some of the funds come from state parks funding, which was recently cut from the budget.

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  12. skitheeast's avatar skitheeast March 28, 2023 / 11:38 am

    Gore’s Hudson Express got moved to 2024? Hasn’t that project been ordered and confirmed for almost a year? Supply chain issues in 2022 was why the project got pushed to 2023 initially…

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    • Peter Landsman's avatar Peter Landsman March 28, 2023 / 11:42 am

      It has been postponed. I believe from the ORDA side, not anything on the Leitner-Poma end. Bear Cub at Gore and Legacy at Whiteface are still on for this year per the most recent ORDA board meeting.

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    • Will's avatar Flyball January 5, 2024 / 8:16 am

      I believe it got postponed due to sewage issues at the north creek ski bowl

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      • Harvey's avatar Harvey January 5, 2024 / 11:12 am

        There is no sewer capacity in North Creek or the Ski Bowl. There is general agreement to move ahead with the construction of a sewer system for the town, but no timeline or funding yet. There’s no way to build the planned new lodge without sewers. I suppose the lack of sewer impacts the lift if the two projects, lift and lodge, must be done in conjunction. Personally I think they should be joined as the need for the lift is somewhat contingent on the new lodge.

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  13. The Skier's avatar The Skier April 12, 2023 / 11:43 pm

    The Explorer gondola at Big Sky is planned to open fall 2025, not 2024

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  14. hahahcat's avatar hahahcat April 27, 2023 / 2:50 pm

    Will construction of International at Snoqualmie begin May 2023?

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    • The Skier's avatar The Skier April 27, 2023 / 9:10 pm

      Yes, but it is a two year project which is why it’s listed as a 2024 lift

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  15. Myles's avatar Myles May 1, 2023 / 9:53 am

    Why is REX getting replaced with a 4 person and not a six person? If it is going to have the same capacity at 2800, why not go with a six pack? The chair spacing is longer to prevent misloads and it could operate in slightly higher wind speeds.

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    • pbropetech's avatar pbropetech May 1, 2023 / 1:51 pm

      My guess is the capacity of the hill and not the lift. With the gondola unloading up there now (and plans for upgrading its capacity at some point) there isn’t a ton of room up there. Could be wrong.

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      • Joe Blake's avatar Joe Blake October 9, 2023 / 11:06 pm

        It’s a bit crowded as is. The Gondola is pretty much where old Chair 2 landed, and Rex is still where it’s been the whole time, and you’ve got tourists stumbling about, and there’s some kinda Illuminati Dance Club or whatever under the Gondola; more is not better. It’s ever more of a cluster than Cattle Crossing on a deep day Saturday. JK was not a visionary. The best thing for Rex would be to off the Gondola, but that won’t happen. Actually, the bestest best thing would be to off Alterra, but that’s really not happening.

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    • Joe Blake's avatar Joe Blake October 9, 2023 / 9:27 pm

      In my experience as a liftie a handful of years ago–okay, a giant’s hand, but still–loading a six pack at CM causes enough misloads and misunloads that longer spacing doesn’t have a chance to play much of a positive role. It can be quite a cluster at the top of Chinook on a December Saturday. I definitely got told by the bosses a few times that even 4.5 metres was too many metres.

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  16. Max V.'s avatar Max V. May 1, 2023 / 1:06 pm

    Are there any recent updates on Revy’s South Bowl chair and terrain expansion? I was there this season and I’m surprised that it’s happening so soon.

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  17. skitheeast's avatar skitheeast May 4, 2023 / 11:09 am

    Sounds like Lumberjack and/or Timberline replacements at Copper will occur in 2024 or 2025.

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    • pbropetech's avatar pbropetech May 4, 2023 / 12:43 pm

      So I hear. I’ll believe it when they tell me to start taking chairs off. We were told we were replacing old H-lift starting in 2002, and Woodward wasn’t built until 2011. I’m not trying to be a pessimist about it but I’ve heard this song and seen this dance before. We shall see.

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  18. skitheeast's avatar skitheeast May 13, 2023 / 9:23 pm

    Laurel at Wolf Ridge is being replaced in 2024 according to the new owners via the Storm Ski Journal.

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    • Peter Landsman's avatar Peter Landsman May 14, 2023 / 6:59 am

      I read that post but it didn’t sound certain. The clock is ticking for anyone who wants a lift in 2024 to place a firm order.

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  19. AO's avatar AO May 19, 2023 / 9:26 pm

    At Snowmass, Coney Glade is to be replaced with a LPA HSQ. Bottom terminal across from the mall where Burlingame was. Bottom half of liftline will follow the Burlingame alignment, there will be a turn station (likely detach) between Picnic Palace and Lynn Britt, then continue to existing Coney Glade top terminal location.

    Cirque will be replaced with a T-bar, manufacturer TBD. Same top terminal location, but realigned to eliminate the turn. Bottom terminal will be closer to Sheer Bliss lift.

    These are pending Forest Service project approval, though both were part of the recently approved updated master plan. Coney will also require approval from Town of Snowmass Village.

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  20. Montana Powder Skier's avatar Montana Powder Skier June 23, 2023 / 1:09 pm

    I can’t believe that BS doesn’t have any plans to replace Headwaters. It is so important to replace; It’s so slow and replacing it in a different alignment would help relieve Six Shooter. It’s kinda sad that a lot of ski areas nowadays don’t care about experts and locals, they only care about the day vacationers that they make a ludicrous amount of money on.

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    • ShangRei Garrett's avatar ShangRei Garrett June 23, 2023 / 1:44 pm

      The slower and older chairlifts tend to scare the vacationers away, which is often what the experts and locals want.

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    • The Skier's avatar The Skier June 23, 2023 / 3:48 pm

      Honestly big sky needs to drop a whole lot of money on the moonlight side and headwaters isn’t going to be the top priority. The out of base capacity is terrible so they need a second 6 pack to the top of lone tree. Also, they need a detachable on iron horse which is a critical mid resort link and it needs to be extended to sixer. I don’t see headwaters happening before either of those. As much as I would love for headwaters to be replaced, the whole moonlight side needs lots of investment to address far bigger problems.

      When headwaters does get replaced I hope they go with a carpet loaded triple that starts at the bottom terminal of Lone tree and ends higher up the ridge.

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    • Anthony's avatar Anthony June 23, 2023 / 8:25 pm

      Headwaters is like what, a three-minute ride? I’d welcome something to shorten the hike up the ridge (and maybe some improvements to the hike itself?), but Headwaters is not a priority when Big Sky probably needs to spend something like $30-50 million just getting the Moonlight side usable and improving its connection with the rest of the resort.

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      • The Skier's avatar The Skier June 23, 2023 / 9:25 pm

        The problem with Headwaters isn’t the ride time, it’s the fact that the bottom terminal is in the most inconvenient spot possible making it impossible to lap anything but Headwaters Bowl without going back to Six Shooter.

        Regardless, I completely agree that it’s not a priority since the rest of the moonlight side lift network is such a mess as it is currently laid out

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        • Montana Powder Skier's avatar Montana Powder Skier June 23, 2023 / 11:26 pm

          It should be higher on the priority list. The moonlight side is not a horrible mess and a six pack up to lone tree is overkill; all that is needed is a six shooter replacement and a headwaters replacement and realignment. Also while Headwaters ride isn’t that long, it could be faster. (Every lap counts :D )

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        • East-West Ottawan's avatar OttawaSkier June 24, 2023 / 7:38 am

          Six Shooter is not old enough to replace. A new Lone Tree 6 will cost exactly the same as replacing Six Shooter (probably less, since you don’t have to remove the existing lift).
          Headwater’s three minute ride is short enough for a fixed grip.

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        • The Skier's avatar The Skier June 24, 2023 / 11:17 am

          The six pack to the top of lone tree is not overkill. The way the moonlight side is currently laid out, the entire lone tree terrain pod takes two lifts to lap which makes the terrain so underutilized. Being able to actually lap these great runs would make moonlight so much more enjoyable to ski. The additional out of base capacity would just be an extremely convenient side effect.

          Also, I wouldn’t want them to remove the current lone tree lift if/when they install this six pack because it allows people to get to the terrain from headwaters and the future top of Iron Horse HSQ

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        • Montana Powder Skier's avatar Montana Powder Skier June 24, 2023 / 1:49 pm

          I completely agree that it should be a fixed grip. Upgrading headwaters to a HSQ would be ridiculous.

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        • Chairlift World's avatar Chairlift World August 17, 2023 / 5:39 pm

          Montana Powder Skier, it would also be nuts to replace Headwaters with a HSQ because Headwaters is INSANELY steep

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  21. Montana Powder Skier's avatar Montana Powder Skier June 23, 2023 / 2:17 pm

    Still, it would be very nice if it was replaced so you could lap all of them without having to ride six shooter. It could still be a fixed grip double.

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  22. Ski guy's avatar Ski guy July 28, 2023 / 12:15 am

    Why did the new gondola at big sky get taken down? Not the one and only. The planned 2 stage gondy.

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    • The Skier's avatar The Skier July 28, 2023 / 7:38 am

      It is going to be a fall 2025 completion date so it is not a 2024 lift

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    • Ty's avatar Ty July 28, 2023 / 7:39 am

      Just noticed it got taken off the list as well, very concerning that the project might be cancelled

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      • The Skier's avatar The Skier July 28, 2023 / 7:50 am

        It’s not going to be cancelled. Look at the instagram video link above. It’s a video of Big Sky GM Troy Nedved talking about the project and eventually its expected completion date of fall 2025. That is why it’s not in this list anymore

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      • Everett's avatar Everett July 28, 2023 / 4:41 pm

        The project is in no danger of cancellation, concrete work has started this summer at the mid station and the line is cut. However the project scope and complexity coupled with the tram project necessitated a 3 year build instead of 2.

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        • The Skier's avatar The Skier July 28, 2023 / 7:47 pm

          Everett do you have any pictures of the concrete at the mid station?

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        • Everett's avatar Everett August 28, 2023 / 11:35 am

          https://photos.app.goo.gl/yf7Hekz31DABuZaf8 finally made it up this weekend and got some pictures, scroll to the bottom to see the latest ones. This is the underground cabin storage which will be mostly buried upon completion.

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  23. RandyM's avatar RandyM July 28, 2023 / 5:48 pm

    Berkshire East’s lift is coming from Mountain Top…what/where is mountain Top?

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    • ShangRei Garrett's avatar ShangRei Garrett July 28, 2023 / 8:01 pm

      If I recall correctly, Berkshire East is getting a new detach quad on the front side this year, and then relocating the replaced lift to the backside, so I would venture to guess that Mountain Top is the fixed-grip that’s begin replaced this year. In-house relocation.

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      • RandyM's avatar RandyM July 29, 2023 / 6:43 am

        Thank you. I checked their trail map and that’s what it seems.

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      • RandyM's avatar RandyM January 7, 2024 / 2:54 pm

        Looks like this lift is on hold with no date per stormski podcast with Berkshire East owner.

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  24. Bryce's avatar Bryce August 3, 2023 / 1:01 pm

    Don’t forget to add the two new lifts in Maine. 6 pack @ Sunday River – Barker, and the West Mountain HSQ @ Sugarloaf.

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    • Ty's avatar Ty August 3, 2023 / 1:10 pm

      All of those lifts are listed under the 2023 new lifts page

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  25. pbropetech's avatar pbropetech August 16, 2023 / 9:35 pm

    To my earlier comment about taking chairs off Timberline Express, also known as T-Rex, TEX, I-lift, I-quad, and CM-022– I’ll be helping out with that next spring. My partner and I have been doing summer maintenance on it saying ‘well, that’s the last time we’ll have to do *that* service….’ I-6 will be a Leitner-Poma sixpack with standard carriers and Direct Drive. Kinda bittersweet; we all agree that the current I-quad is our most reliable and bomber detachable.

    Still no word on my 42-year-old responsibility though. I’d love to put the current I-quad there but it sounds like we’ve backed away from that idea.

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    • Aidan Reilly's avatar Aidan Reilly August 17, 2023 / 3:19 pm

      Do you think the 6 pack will have contour loading so there isn’t that awkward 90° turn?

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      • pbropetech's avatar pbropetech August 17, 2023 / 4:10 pm

        I doubt it. We’ve eliminated 90-degree loading on two of three lifts that had it. We are moving the terminal uphill, so the gooseneck should open up and smooth out.

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        • vons3's avatar vons3 August 17, 2023 / 5:49 pm

          So is the bottom of E going to move down hill after Solitude gets demolished? It had been in some plan to do so. I figure changing E to inline load would happen then too.

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        • pbropetech's avatar pbropetech August 19, 2023 / 1:16 pm

          I haven’t heard anything about that idea since you left, actually. I kinda doubt it at this point.

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      • vons3's avatar vons3 January 7, 2024 / 1:34 pm

        Yah the Timberline Exp lift line works really well (fills chairs, self organizes, etc.) even with the turn in the approach, a 90 deg load would actually not work well as it would shorten the approach too much as it works best to have 5-6 groups of riders organized before the wait line. John are you guys getting a new perka (grip bay building) with the project? if so top or bottom?

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  26. skitheeast's avatar skitheeast August 25, 2023 / 1:58 pm

    Which Deer Valley lift is Lift 3? From what I remember, the new Mayflower lifts almost all have proper names, and Silver Lake’s replacement will be a gondola (not a bubble 6).

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    • Peter Landsman's avatar Peter Landsman August 25, 2023 / 2:07 pm

      Lift 3 was previously called the Mayflower Express by Extell. It will go from the new village to the bottom of Deer Valley’s Sultan Express. I was told yesterday the goal is to install that lift next summer so skiers can access Deer Valley the winter before phase one opens. It will not be called Mayflower Express because that name is being retired. Alterra wants to avoid the word Mayflower due to its association with Christopher Columbus/colonialism.

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      • Alex's avatar Alex September 23, 2023 / 8:41 am

        Hi Peter. Has Deer Valley said anything about replacement/realignment of the current “Mayflower” triple? I was thinking perhaps they may upgrade it to a detachable and extend/realign it to the top of Bald Mountain.

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      • Chris Columbus's avatar Chris Columbus October 17, 2023 / 6:20 pm

        Wasn’t Columbus on the Santa Maria?

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  27. Erik Sahlin's avatar Erik Sahlin August 28, 2023 / 9:19 pm

    What about adding the Brighton Chondola for 2024 as you said a few days ago?

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  28. Anthony's avatar Anthony September 7, 2023 / 8:13 pm

    A couple thoughts on two of the big players:

    Alterra: They have four lifts on the docket for next year so far (not counting the Extell-funded lift at Deer Valley). I expect to see a short beginner lift or two (those are probably just carpets) at Schweitzer at Schweitzer Creek Village/Basecamp. I’m also very curious to see if they try to do two lifts at Crystal given the really pointed criticism of their prior investment plans that some thought de-emphasized lift improvements. That may be Bullion Basin, though my firm belief is the Park & Ride or Kelly’s Gap should be the number one priority for improved access in the morning.

    Powdr: In the next 2-3 years, my top three lift replacement priorities for their entire portfolio would be OBX at Mt. Bachelor, Mineral Basin at Snowbird, and Superstar at Killington. Each of those has been expressed as a priority at those resorts. Maybe they try to knock one of them out next summer.

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    • Nolan's avatar Nolan October 15, 2023 / 6:36 pm

      I would really like to see the iron horse/pony lift at winter park.

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  29. Bill Miles's avatar Bill Miles September 25, 2023 / 9:00 pm

    Like the content, but the colors in the table listing the lifts make the text a little hard to read.

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  30. Nolan's avatar Nolan September 30, 2023 / 7:03 pm

    What happened to the used lifts at Silverton and Sunlight?

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  31. Quiksilver The Fox's avatar chairliftworld1989 October 17, 2023 / 10:03 am

    Isn’t the new Chair 1 at Sandia supposed to be built sometime in 2024? It’s on the master plan but doesn’t say when or the manufacturer. I’m hoping that the bottom terminal is moved so the current drive building could be used for storage

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  32. Myles's avatar Myles October 25, 2023 / 3:33 pm

    What is the bubble six pack planned for deer valley? I’d be interested to hear more about that.

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    • AC's avatar Auston November 9, 2023 / 11:09 am

      It’s the first new chair to be built out of the new Mayflower base area. It will end near the bottom of Sultan Express. DV wants to build this by next summer to start using Mayflower as a portal to get people on the mountain while the majority of the Mayflower lifts will open for the following season.

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  33. techorangeboots's avatar techorangeboots October 25, 2023 / 3:41 pm

    Bogus hasn’t officially announced the Skytrac quads yet. But I hope that means the new Coach will be in the alignment suggested by SE Group, doubled in length and terminating left of ridge run. They will have some cat work to do.
    Also super excited for Bitterroot… we park over there and the Saturday lines are looooooong. Hopefully with the planned extension of snowmaking into Bitterroot, they will open this pod 7 days a week. Good for you Bogus! Now, if they can get that Clear Creek lift in, lines will really be down, until they expand parking… but how much can BB road take?

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    • Joe Blake's avatar Joe Blake November 12, 2023 / 11:37 am

      Given what happens when there’s an accident, or days like that one Sunday (you probly know which one) in March last winter, I’d say we’re already past capacity on the road. It took me 2 hours from the 10 mile and folks I talked to said I was lucky, cos they headed up early like they’re sposeta and ran into traffic at Lower Sweet Connie and it took em 3 from there. I still found a spot on the road just below the caretaker’s trailer and skooched over through the condos into Chair 5 and skied there all day with no real competition, which is a testament to the lot expansions and the size of the hill.
      Clear Creek sure would be nice, though. More cruisers resembling Nugget instead of Nighthawk, some real nice northerly glades, and better skier dispersal. (See Nugget and Showcase on a weekend.) I am hopeful, but I am not optimistic, especially given the fundraising push they’ll need to actually follow through if the local Forest Circus Supe says okay. A lot more than just the already expensive lift.
      Lastly, when they announced Chair 7 last year, either they said publicly or I heard through the liftline that it’s gonna be up into the new thinning from the last 3 summers, somewhere skiers’ left of The Other Ridge. I haven’t heard the exact spot for the upper terminal, but you are right about it being much longer and needing some regrading. It’s not true beginner terrain back there.
      Really lastly, I am sad about Chair 5, cos Riblet, cos that long morning line makes it unpopular, and cos Riblet, but 7 will be a big improvement. Those old polygon Yan carriers are dern uncomfortable for all of us, the folks for whom the chair exists in the first place will probly benefit from a giant couch and definitely from more terrain, and ski school won’t need eleventy chair riders per class like they do now.

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  34. Rotten's avatar Rotten November 5, 2023 / 10:37 pm

    I thought Mammoth Mountain was supposed to upgrade Chair 1 Broadway Express from a high speed quad detachable to a six-pack detachable but don’t see it on the list. I know there are a lot of plans for improvements on that side of the mountain but thought the replacement for Chair 1 was on the list

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  35. Chris's avatar Chris November 6, 2023 / 2:31 am

    The Chair 1 upgrade was planned before Covid, but hasn’t returned (yet).

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    • Mike B's avatar Mike B November 7, 2023 / 9:25 am

      Yup. Will be interesting to see if they put it back on the list for this coming summer or whether they wait until they have fully approved/entitled plans for the base village at Main, in which the new Ch 1 is an integral part.

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      • Comish's avatar Comish November 7, 2023 / 11:00 pm

        The ski team has been told ch 1 is closing in April ’24 for replacement. Highly unusual as it’s been open through Memorial Day for a few decades.

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        • Comish's avatar Comish November 7, 2023 / 11:10 pm

          Ooops, I lied. It was a local real estate newsletter that was published after the ski area gave a presentation to the local realtors. So take it with a shaker of salt.

          I was also told by someone at the top, they had signed the contract for ch16 and ch1 pre-covid. Argh..

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        • Peter Landsman's avatar Peter Landsman November 9, 2023 / 2:02 pm

          I checked with Mammoth, this is Chair 1’s final season.

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        • Blu624's avatar Blu624 January 13, 2024 / 1:21 pm

          Do we know whether the Broadway replacement will be a Uni-G or another D-line like Chair 16?

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        • vons3's avatar vons3 January 13, 2024 / 1:42 pm

          BLU624 the chair will be identical to the lift installed this season so D-line with the integrated chair storage.

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  36. haydenklev5's avatar haydenklev5 November 6, 2023 / 7:37 pm

    Did Sun Valley postpone the Christmas Chondola? Don’t see it on the list anymore

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    • Peter Landsman's avatar Peter Landsman November 6, 2023 / 7:39 pm

      I checked in with SV and they are planning to do only Seattle Ridge next summer. Christmas Chondola remains in planning but won’t be completed next summer.

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      • Will's avatar Flyball December 19, 2023 / 6:31 pm

        I don’t understand why Sun Valley chose to drop Christmas and proceed with Seattle Ridge next summer considering Christmas one considering it’s like 5 years older than Seattle Ridge (Its got the frickin Yan teardrop chairs) and its location on the mountain compared to Seattle Ridge is in a much more critical mtn pod

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  37. Quiksilver The Fox's avatar chairliftworld1989 November 9, 2023 / 11:46 pm

    I hope SFSC at Ski Santa Fe gets relocated, similar to Taos relocating Lift 4 to China Peak. If I relocated it, possibly somewhere in Utah would do the job well

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  38. Nolan's avatar Nolan November 17, 2023 / 2:56 pm

    Legoland is getting a gondola?!?!?

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    • reaperskier's avatar reaperskier November 17, 2023 / 5:08 pm

      Guessing it’s probably a transport lift to take visitors across the park.

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  39. nolanmudd's avatar nolanmudd November 19, 2023 / 6:59 pm

    I heard from someone that vail was either replacing a lift or removing a lift in the 2024-2025 season.

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    • Anders's avatar Anders November 20, 2023 / 8:51 am

      Hopefully Mongolia? Might also be Eagle Bahn or something.

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      • Nolan's avatar Nolan November 20, 2023 / 9:09 am

        Could also be Riva Bahn

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        • Pockets's avatar Pockets November 26, 2023 / 10:50 pm

          My guess is they replace Orient, although Riva and Born Free both make sense. And now that I say that watch them replace Wildwood or Cascade…

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    • pbropetech's avatar pbropetech November 20, 2023 / 9:11 am

      ‘I heard from someone’ is an unsubstantiated rumour, unless you know somebody who actually knows something concrete. VR is pretty good about signing contracts early on, and they know full well how booked the manufacturers are.

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      • nolanmudd's avatar nolanmudd November 20, 2023 / 11:04 am

        Well, if your asking I heard it from on of the Alpine Cable guys working on Wild Spur while I hiked up there. He said that he and his crews next year would be working on something at Vail, Snowmass, and Sunlight.

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        • Aidan Reilly's avatar Aidan Reilly November 20, 2023 / 11:47 am

          Removal at Snowmass, installation at sunlight.

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  40. Boardski's avatar bsmiller16 November 26, 2023 / 11:14 am

    It is nice to see Segundo replacement back on the list. This will be a very nice upgrade for Sunlight. They have given old Ajax #3 a very long life.

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  41. RandyM's avatar RandyM November 26, 2023 / 3:16 pm

    Any update on 3 lifts originally posted for 2023 that haven’t been moved to 2024 or 2025
    Woods Valley NY Quad, Silverton CO Double, Massif Du Sud Que. Triple or Farr’s Hill T-bar from 2022?

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  42. Will's avatar Flyball December 9, 2023 / 4:34 pm

    Where did you find this little whiteface replacement from Peter?

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    • Randy MathesonM's avatar Randy MathesonM December 10, 2023 / 6:02 am

      It was mentioned in the Dec. 1 News Roundup post.

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  43. Will's avatar Flyball December 13, 2023 / 2:11 pm

    Why the hell if Whiteface replacing their Little Whiteface Double with another double chairlift. It would make more sense to replace this lift with a skytrac chairlift (Triple if they want to be home of the first skytrac triple in the northeast) and keep the midstation, besides, does doppelmayr even make fixed grip doubles.

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  44. Edwin's avatar Edwin December 19, 2023 / 6:15 am

    does anyone know if there replacing little whiteface or if there just removing mountain run and replacing the double double towers.

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    • FlyballSkiLifts's avatar FlyballSkiLifts January 22, 2024 / 3:28 pm

      I feel like they would probably either replacing the current double with a newer one, a triple or a quad or their removing Mountain Run and installing new towers on the lower portion. If they wanted to save money they could just reinstall gore’s Hudson partek triple chairlift as that lift is about to be replaced with a new Leitner Poma detachable quad.

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    • Mike B's avatar Mike B January 22, 2024 / 4:18 pm

      On a recent episode of The Storm podcast with Whiteface’s GM, he said the current thinking was to replace the double double with a new FG double to simplify the operation and right size capacity for that pod given Cloudspitter and Freeway both offloading there/above.

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  45. The Skier's avatar The Skier December 23, 2023 / 12:03 am

    I get the feeling that this coming summer is going to be a light one for Boyne with upgrades.

    Here is what is already officially announced:
    •One & Only Gondola at Big Sky (technically not even a Boyne project so I’m not counting it)
    •International 3 at Summit at Snoqualmie
    •Edelweiss 3 at Summit at Snoqualmie

    Here is what is extremely likely from rumors:
    •Detachable Summit lift at Pleasant Mountain (Using old Jordan HSQ)
    •Double runner replacement fixed grip quad at Sugarloaf

    Other potential projects, not sure how likely these rumors are:
    •Chondola at Brighton
    •Interconnect lift at The Highlands
    •Maybe something at Boyne Mountain???

    Has anyone heard or noticed anything I’m missing bc last year Boyne built 3 D-Lines and a tram in addition to a number of fixed grips and pretty much all I’m seeing after reading a ton on this site and looking over all the mountains 2030 plans is a couple fixed grips and a relocated HSQ.

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    • The Skier's avatar The Skier December 23, 2023 / 12:15 am

      Based on 2030 plans I looked at for Sunday River and Loon here’s why I don’t see those resorts doing any lifts this year

      Loon:
      The next lift is to replace is Lincoln Express but they have a ton of lodge work listed as well which I think is far more needed and likely their priority.

      Sunday River:
      The next lifts they have to replace in their 2030 plan are Tempest and Aurora. The best fit for both of these is likely a relocated HSQ but the only one Boyne has available is the old Jordan which is 99.9% going to Pleasant Mountain

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      • haydenklev5's avatar haydenklev5 December 23, 2023 / 11:11 am

        I’d be interested to see if Boyne starts upgrading lifts at Brighton to then reuse those HSQ elsewhere since Boyne committed to not buying anymore HSQ. Because some of those other resort replacements don’t need anything more than a quad

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      • Will's avatar Flyball December 26, 2023 / 1:56 pm

        The Lincoln Express is so new that I don’t really think It would make sense to replace it anytime soon however knowing Boyne and them shuffling lots of lifts around their resorts, they are probably gonna install a six-seat d-line in Lincoln’s place similar to the Kanc 8, if I were to guess where the old HSQ were most likely to go I’m going with Aurora Peak at Sunday river and despite the lift not even being 20 years old, Boyne will probably replace both UNI-GS terminal enclosures with UNI-G enclosures. And then maybe Aurora Peak can go and replace both the double runner lifts at Sugarloaf and reuse the old Aurora Peak terminal structures and doppelmayr providing chairs, towers/heads, and drive. And then maybe the two double runners lifts can be sold to smaller mountains not owned by Boyne.

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      • Will's avatar Flyball December 28, 2023 / 11:50 am

        What’s Tempest?

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        • The Skier's avatar The Skier December 29, 2023 / 11:57 pm

          White Cap Quad

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    • Anthony's avatar Anthony December 30, 2023 / 12:22 pm

      Looks like they’re also doing Wildside 4 (just a CLF-4) at Summit at Snoqualmie, and of course we just heard about North Side 8 at Big Sky. They’re also continuing work on the Explorer Gondola at Big Sky, and the One&Only Gondola is now going to be a D-Line.

      So much for a light year! 😂

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      • Joe's avatar Joe December 30, 2023 / 1:32 pm

        Woah, when was Wildside announced? Glad to see it but quite a surprise.

        I was thinking they might build the new Pac Crest first and move the existing lift to Wildside but it sure seems that they’re all in on replacing many of the older lifts with new Doppelmayrs.

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      • The Skier's avatar The Skier December 30, 2023 / 4:32 pm

        Yea I don’t think anyone expected the North Side 8 announcement. I thought things at Big Sky were pretty set through 2025. It definitely increases the number of projects happening at Boyne Resorts this year, but it sounds like North Side 8 is mostly funded by LMLC. We already knew the One & Only Gondola wasn’t a Boyne funded project so it’s still light for them on the dollar amount. Tbh though that’s even better for them bc they get the benefit of the investments into Big Sky without actually having to foot the bill.

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  46. Quiksilver The Fox's avatar chairliftworld1989 December 26, 2023 / 11:29 pm

    I was on Pajarito Mountain’s Facebook page a few weeks ago, asking if it was possible they would be able to buy Ski Santa Fe’s 1988 Poma quad that is being removed in 2024 to replace the Spruce chair. They’re response was “Yes, come help!” I wonder what they mean by that

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    • Michael's avatar Michael December 27, 2023 / 6:33 am

      I think they meant “Come down, bring friends, and buy lift tickets so we can get enough money to buy it”. 🤔😉

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      • Quiksilver The Fox's avatar chairliftworld1989 December 28, 2023 / 10:56 pm

        I was at Pajarito on the 22nd 😋

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    • RandyM's avatar RandyM December 27, 2023 / 11:58 am

      Well Pajarito is owned buy Mountain Capital which just took over Sandia Peak from Ski Santa Fe so there could be some deal in the works.

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    • Logan's avatar Logan January 21, 2024 / 5:36 pm

      The Aspen chair needs to be replaced before Spruce as it’s the workhorse lift for the entire mountain during both ski and mountain bike seasons. Aspen has a history of breaking down and requiring lift evacuations. Los Alamos Ski Club made a huge mistake back in 1994 when they installed the Townsite quad instead of replacing Aspen with a quad and relocating Aspen over to Townsite.

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  47. Will's avatar Flyball December 29, 2023 / 12:10 pm

    So right now the only confirmed eight pack chairlift being built in summer of 2024 is the North Side 8 but if I were to guess what the next top 5 possible replacements are here are what they would be.

    1. Superstar 8 – Killington VT

    2. Duncan 8 – Tremblant QC (Old Duncan can replace Le Soleil with a few upgrades along the way)

    3. URSA 8 – Stratton VT

    4. SuperQuad Replacement Lift – Sugarloaf ME

    5. Mountain 8 – Boyne MI

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  48. Anthony's avatar Anthony December 30, 2023 / 12:27 pm

    Pretty shocked not to see Crystal on this list yet. They have a bunch of big projects they need to tackle, and the foot-dragging is getting old, especially with Boyne replacing three lifts next year at Snoqualmie.

    On my list, in this order:

    – Rainier Express replacement
    – Campbell Basin Gondola
    – Bullion Basin
    – Kelly’s Gap
    – Northway HSQ (😩)

    I would have hoped the REX replacement at least would have been on the list by now.

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    • Ryan's avatar Ryan December 30, 2023 / 12:39 pm

      It’s only a matter of time.. and money. The latter usually being the biggest lack thereof.

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    • Ryan's avatar Ryan December 30, 2023 / 12:41 pm

      Did REX get some mid-life upgrades/services done to it that has extended it’s need for replacement out a bit? That or it’s just been relatively trouble free and easy to maintain?

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    • Joe's avatar Joe December 30, 2023 / 1:59 pm

      It’s a bit disappointing to not see much in the way of upgrades aside from the new lodge that is delayed until later this season. They seem to have backpedaled on much of the Reimagine Crystal projects, especially after Frank DeBerry left.

      I think REX replacement is a top priority, but I wonder if they might be waiting on the Summit House replacement to rearrange the summit to make more room for a 6 pack up there. Would be nice to see REX replaced much sooner although the summit rebuild would make the REX replacement easier with more space.

      Bullion Basin and Kelly’s Gap would be good to build as soon as they can to help with skier flow and spreading people across the mountain. I could see Discovery Express happening fairly soon as well.

      I like the idea of the Campbell Basin gondola but personally don’t see it as a top priority. Maybe use it to replace Chinook with a mid station at the current location but would need realignment and/or wait for REX replacement.

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    • Will's avatar Flyball December 30, 2023 / 5:09 pm

      Of those lifts the Rainer express is the number one priority for Crystal. Those 1988 Poma detachables will all be gone if Crystal retires Rainer in 2024.

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    Stratton Tamarack Express is official for the 2024-2025 season!

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