This detachable six place lift replaced an early generation detachable quad in 2020.The bottom terminal is much more compact than the original.Combination assemblies.The top terminal has a DirectDrive.Return terminal.Lower part of the lift line and the bottom terminal.Lift overview.Side view of the return station.A Leitner-Poma tower head.Towers 1 and 2.Lower part of the lift line.Big Burn is famous for its ungroomed terrain.Middle part of the lift line.Chair spacing is quite wide on this lift.Chairs are able to be fitted with bubble carriers in the future.Towers 20 and 21 adjacent to the top terminal.Side view of the drive station.View from the summit.Top terminal underskin.End view of the drive terminal.Arriving up top.Breakover towers.T15.Almost all the towers on this lift have multiple tube segments.Loading area.View up near the bottom terminal.Lower part of the line.Middle lift line.A Leitner carrier.View down.Looking down near the summit.The final few towers.Upper part of the lift line.Side view up top.Unloading area and operator shack.Tower 13.
Would LPA chairs like these be able to carry the weight of bubbles? Because I could’ve sworn that bubbles required a different style hanger arm because of how heavy they are.
I don’t think the LPA chairs are able to fit the bubbles because the Taco hanger are way different then the LPA Chairs. So they might just replace the LPA chairs with the bubble ones over next season. Plus the bubble covers themselves are very heavy to carry.
The current six-passenger chairs on this lift aren’t convertible. The bubble chairs have different seat pivot and front bar attachments and are a heavier gauge/larger diameter pipe. It’s possible these are the heavier bails as I have no reference from these photos, and the regular sixpack seat clamps may just be covering the boltholes for the bubble seats. The goosenecks/hanger arms on these are the same as the ones on our bubble chairs, though.
Big Burn mostly serves blue terrain while Sheer Bliss only has one long blue plus a number of black runs off it.
Although there’s an irony in that I think, right now, Sheer Bliss has more capacity on it than Big Burn, and its chair spacing seems to give it a capacity closer to 2,400 pph (vs. Big Burn’s 2,200 pph).
Per the article below it was heavily considered, and was the original plan, but Skico ultimately decided against it because it would have required all skiers to go across the Trestle bridge every run.
No, and hopefully never will. The carriers will need replaced and a carrier barn constructed in the big flat area where the old bottom terminal was. There are far more pressing capital needs at Snowmass than bubbles on the Burn
Was looking at some newer LPA lifts on this site today and noticed that this lift has a slightly different terminal mast set up than some other LPA six packs, say #11 Northwoods Express at Vail. This lift has what looks like fixed terminals with an internal tension carriage and “gondola-style” terminal masts, compared to movable terminals on rollers and regular LPA terminal masts on other LPA six packs. Looks pretty similar to the American Flyer terminals. Maybe the different masts are a requirement for the bubble capability… or to accommodate the longer length needed for 1,100 fpm line speed. Possibly both, I’m not sure.
Also, I didn’t realize how big the drive on this lift is, 1,300 hp! Wow.
You are correct – fixed terminals with internal tension carriage at the return just like on the Elk Camp Gondola and VX (both are Omega). I’d post a picture, but not seeing the option to do so. The drive on Big Burn is DC direct. Makes for a very clean and open drive terminal!
The terminals can accommodate 1100 FPM without being longer- use our Excelerator for an example. The internal carriage is necessary for longer lifts as it has more travel than the movable terminal.
I’m surprised Peter didn’t include any pictures of the massive genset that serves as the first auxiliary for this lift. Maybe it’s not that interesting; it’s just a big tan box “hiding” in the trees west of the drive (not visible in any of the posted pictures)
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Why’d aspen decide to use a different LPA terminal color scheme than that of High Alpine and Tiehack?
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Probably to match with Sheer Bliss next door.
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I hope they add in the bubbles once the pandemic is over/calmed down
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Would LPA chairs like these be able to carry the weight of bubbles? Because I could’ve sworn that bubbles required a different style hanger arm because of how heavy they are.
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I don’t think the LPA chairs are able to fit the bubbles because the Taco hanger are way different then the LPA Chairs. So they might just replace the LPA chairs with the bubble ones over next season. Plus the bubble covers themselves are very heavy to carry.
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The current six-passenger chairs on this lift aren’t convertible. The bubble chairs have different seat pivot and front bar attachments and are a heavier gauge/larger diameter pipe. It’s possible these are the heavier bails as I have no reference from these photos, and the regular sixpack seat clamps may just be covering the boltholes for the bubble seats. The goosenecks/hanger arms on these are the same as the ones on our bubble chairs, though.
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Why’d they make this the HSS instead of Sheer Bliss when SB covers all of Big Burn’s terrain?
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Because this lift was in need of a replacement and Sheer Bliss is newer.
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Well the idea would’ve been to have gone with a Six on SB in 2008 instead of the quad, and then replaced Big Burn with a Quad around now.
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Big Burn mostly serves blue terrain while Sheer Bliss only has one long blue plus a number of black runs off it.
Although there’s an irony in that I think, right now, Sheer Bliss has more capacity on it than Big Burn, and its chair spacing seems to give it a capacity closer to 2,400 pph (vs. Big Burn’s 2,200 pph).
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Per the article below it was heavily considered, and was the original plan, but Skico ultimately decided against it because it would have required all skiers to go across the Trestle bridge every run.
https://www.aspentimes.com/news/time-to-pop-a-six-pack-on-big-burn/
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Like it or not the bburn sees far more traffic then sheer bliss. The terrain it directly serves is the most popular on that side of the mountain.
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Is Big Burn getting bubbles this summer?
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Does anyone know if Big Burn is getting bubbles this summer?
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No, and hopefully never will. The carriers will need replaced and a carrier barn constructed in the big flat area where the old bottom terminal was. There are far more pressing capital needs at Snowmass than bubbles on the Burn
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Was looking at some newer LPA lifts on this site today and noticed that this lift has a slightly different terminal mast set up than some other LPA six packs, say #11 Northwoods Express at Vail. This lift has what looks like fixed terminals with an internal tension carriage and “gondola-style” terminal masts, compared to movable terminals on rollers and regular LPA terminal masts on other LPA six packs. Looks pretty similar to the American Flyer terminals. Maybe the different masts are a requirement for the bubble capability… or to accommodate the longer length needed for 1,100 fpm line speed. Possibly both, I’m not sure.
Also, I didn’t realize how big the drive on this lift is, 1,300 hp! Wow.
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You are correct – fixed terminals with internal tension carriage at the return just like on the Elk Camp Gondola and VX (both are Omega). I’d post a picture, but not seeing the option to do so. The drive on Big Burn is DC direct. Makes for a very clean and open drive terminal!
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The terminals can accommodate 1100 FPM without being longer- use our Excelerator for an example. The internal carriage is necessary for longer lifts as it has more travel than the movable terminal.
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Video of the lift:
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I’m surprised Peter didn’t include any pictures of the massive genset that serves as the first auxiliary for this lift. Maybe it’s not that interesting; it’s just a big tan box “hiding” in the trees west of the drive (not visible in any of the posted pictures)
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