Top station with counterweight tensioning.This is the last remaining Riblet at Winter Park.Bottom station with vault drive.View up from the loading area. Note the Poma control pedestal.Top station downhill side.Unloading ramp.Top tension carriage.View down the lift line.Riblet tower and center pole chairs.Vault drive seen from Olympia Express.
I believe Looking Glass is the oldest lift in Colorado still operating, and as far as I know, the only remaining center bar in the state. I really hope I’m able to snag a chair when it finally comes down. So many great memories as a kid.
Primo at Sunlight dates back to 1966 install at Sunlight, and Segundo at Sunlight is a relocated lift from Aspen (probably old lift 2) which dates back to the late 50s or early 60s. It has lattice towers. Check it out. Both lifts are center pole doubles. https://liftblog.com/segundo-sunlight-co/
Not a chairlift, however they claim to have the oldest operating lift in colorado. A Poma. “Lake City’s Ski Hill has a single Poma lift that was moved from Arapahoe Basin in 1966. It’s the oldest operation lift in the state, and when it came to Lake City,”
Little Hawk, by Miner-Denver, dates from1968 and was Steamboat’s first Four Points lift. It was removed in 1992, its liftline named Nelson’s Run. That year the Storm Peak triple chair (YAN, 1983) was shortened and renamed Four Points.
I rode the Looking Glass every Saturday in the early 70’s. The original lift would throw you out in a heartbeat. It was a voyage to get down there. Very fun.
I really hope they replace this lift soon. Maybe next summer with a new triple chair? I have always wondered if Winter Park could move the bottom station back to where Wagon Train and Tin Horn meet? They would obviously do this when they built the new lift. I do think moving the lower station would really help reduce traffic on the Olympia Express.
I agree with Donald on this. Yes, a lift can last for a long time if it is properly maintained, but I would not say it can last forever. This lift is the last remaining Riblet at Winter Park and I feel as though it may become a maintenance nightmare soon because they may not have the necessary spare parts to keep it running.
Exactly. Winter Park’s Heron Poma fixed grips probably have many more years of service ahead of them, since they’re essential to supplementing the Super Gauge Express. The Yan triples are the same, with Arrow and Eagle Wind.
Looking Glass is also a daily operating lift, so its hours are probably higher than say, Breck’s Lift C, which although 49 years old, is an auxiliary lift that only runs on weekends and holidays.
A lift can last forever if you pour enough resources into it (single chair at Mad River). Looking Glass isn’t exactly iconic except maybe to us lift nerds though so I’m sure at some point it won’t be worth maintaining anymore
Noting the poma control pedestal I would assume the vault drive components were replaced at some point by poma or some other lift manufacturer because being a very large resort, I would have guessed as a side project they replaced the drive. I’m almost 100% certain that they replaced the drive so it will probably be able to run for many years to come.
Regarding the ‘Poma’ control pedestal- you can buy that exact enclosure from any electrical supply house. GJ happens to like that style so that’s what they use. It’s entirely possible WP also likes that so they retrofitted LG’s pedestal to match. Without seeing the Poma logo on the box itself I doubt they did anything to this lift.
I’ll be honest, I have never heard of a Riblet dying. They are honestly one of the most well built lifts out there and it designed its lifts so that you can go down to your local auto part store for parts!
I thought I had heard that the Sunnyside chairs were sold off and/or given to employees, and that the rest of the lift would be used for parts at other Alterra resorts with CTEC lifts?
When they relace this lift, reply to me if they plan on selling the chairs because I will definitely be taking one home with me. Please, when they sold the Sunnyside chairs and The Zephyr chairs, I never even had a chance to snag one, they were always sold out. Very sad life for me… :(
There could be may factors, here is what comes to my mind and what I read.
1. Mechanical Issues (New Years day, Lift stuck in first gear and the other day, lift closed to mechanical)
2. Employees have Covid-19 (I read that some a lot of employees have been testing Positive)
3. No-Reason to Open (They close the lift if not a lot of people attend to save money)
She’s been down for the past week do to something with the brakes. Maintenance is trying to see if they can test it at a higher braking force, and if it works it can reopen, but if it doesn’t she will most likely be closed for the rest of the season. The end of looking glass may come sooner then expected.
I worked on the LG as a lift op from 2002-2004. I hope they never take it down, as it’s a piece of history and holds a special place in many people’s hearts. Even 20 years ago the fact that they’ve kept it well maintained and operable was a point of pride for the resort.
If they do replace it, I hope I find out and can get one of the chairs shipped back to my home on the east coast, as it holds a certain sentimental value to me.
No need to. They learned what they needed to about Riblets when they blew up poor old Eskimo. Let Looking Glass go out in style. Turning till it’s time to tear her down and sell those uncomfortable center pole chairs off.
Naah. The days of relocating 1960s era Riblets are gone. Especially when there are plenty of 1980s and 90s vintage Doppies and Pomas and Yannies available.
Last I heard the rumor was that they were planning on replacing it with the former CTEC Sunnyside triple, but I haven’t heard any recent news about the replacement. That lift came down way back in 2019. I haven’t been up there in a couple years, but I believe that lift is still sitting in pieces in the Corona Siding lot at Mary Jane.
Its not going to be replaced with the old Sunnyside, that was a false misconception from me. The chairs were auctioned off back in 2019 and most of the lift was scrapped, with only some components at the resort. It’ll be replaced with a new 6 pack as stated in the recent master plan running to the top of the zips hill. I got to operate this lift recently and by what most guests were expressing, it will be missed by a lot.
I rode this lift in January of 2020. Impressive how well winter park and the L.M staff have done in keeping this lift in such nice looking shape. At the time it appeared to still have original swing dampeners and halos from what it appeared. It will be sad to see this lift eventually go, along with countless other classic fixed grip lifts.
With the Sunlight upgrades, this is now the officially the oldest ski use lift in CO, correct? And I heard this one won’t be lasting much longer either.
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I believe Looking Glass is the oldest lift in Colorado still operating, and as far as I know, the only remaining center bar in the state. I really hope I’m able to snag a chair when it finally comes down. So many great memories as a kid.
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Primo at Sunlight dates back to 1966 install at Sunlight, and Segundo at Sunlight is a relocated lift from Aspen (probably old lift 2) which dates back to the late 50s or early 60s. It has lattice towers. Check it out. Both lifts are center pole doubles.
https://liftblog.com/segundo-sunlight-co/
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I believe Little Hawk at Eldora was noted as the oldest running lift in the state. It came from somewhere else.
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Not a chairlift, however they claim to have the oldest operating lift in colorado. A Poma. “Lake City’s Ski Hill has a single Poma lift that was moved from Arapahoe Basin in 1966. It’s the oldest operation lift in the state, and when it came to Lake City,”
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I thought that the Estes Park Tramway was the oldest in the state, despite not being used for skiing.
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Little Hawk, by Miner-Denver, dates from1968 and was Steamboat’s first Four Points lift. It was removed in 1992, its liftline named Nelson’s Run. That year the Storm Peak triple chair (YAN, 1983) was shortened and renamed Four Points.
Bill Fetcher
Steamboat Springs
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It may be the oldest lit now, since Primo and Segundo were both removed.
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I rode the Looking Glass every Saturday in the early 70’s. The original lift would throw you out in a heartbeat. It was a voyage to get down there. Very fun.
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I wonder when they’re going to replace this lift.
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I really hope they replace this lift soon. Maybe next summer with a new triple chair? I have always wondered if Winter Park could move the bottom station back to where Wagon Train and Tin Horn meet? They would obviously do this when they built the new lift. I do think moving the lower station would really help reduce traffic on the Olympia Express.
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Yeah, and then you mitigate the problem of accidentally skiing too far down to the Olympia
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I hope they don’t replace this lift soon it is more historic and shows what the resort looked like back in the day
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The lift is 55 years old. It’s probably only got about five or so years left in its service life.
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They say a lift can last forever as long as they maintain it properly and keep it in good shape. I hope they can do that.
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I agree with Donald on this. Yes, a lift can last for a long time if it is properly maintained, but I would not say it can last forever. This lift is the last remaining Riblet at Winter Park and I feel as though it may become a maintenance nightmare soon because they may not have the necessary spare parts to keep it running.
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Exactly. Winter Park’s Heron Poma fixed grips probably have many more years of service ahead of them, since they’re essential to supplementing the Super Gauge Express. The Yan triples are the same, with Arrow and Eagle Wind.
Looking Glass is also a daily operating lift, so its hours are probably higher than say, Breck’s Lift C, which although 49 years old, is an auxiliary lift that only runs on weekends and holidays.
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A lift can last forever if you pour enough resources into it (single chair at Mad River). Looking Glass isn’t exactly iconic except maybe to us lift nerds though so I’m sure at some point it won’t be worth maintaining anymore
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doesn’t Superior Tramway still make Riblet parts though? If they do I guess they could keep looking glass running for a little longer.
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Noting the poma control pedestal I would assume the vault drive components were replaced at some point by poma or some other lift manufacturer because being a very large resort, I would have guessed as a side project they replaced the drive. I’m almost 100% certain that they replaced the drive so it will probably be able to run for many years to come.
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Regarding the ‘Poma’ control pedestal- you can buy that exact enclosure from any electrical supply house. GJ happens to like that style so that’s what they use. It’s entirely possible WP also likes that so they retrofitted LG’s pedestal to match. Without seeing the Poma logo on the box itself I doubt they did anything to this lift.
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I’ll be honest, I have never heard of a Riblet dying. They are honestly one of the most well built lifts out there and it designed its lifts so that you can go down to your local auto part store for parts!
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Well it is getting replaced and bye what? Well the old sunnyside will be replacing it.
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I thought I had heard that the Sunnyside chairs were sold off and/or given to employees, and that the rest of the lift would be used for parts at other Alterra resorts with CTEC lifts?
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Yes you are correct that the chairs were sold except that only 60 of them were sold so that means there are 105 chairs left.
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hey bro you stole the operating manual there aint no way they’re reusing this lift
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The color for this lift used to be red in the picture below…
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When they relace this lift, reply to me if they plan on selling the chairs because I will definitely be taking one home with me. Please, when they sold the Sunnyside chairs and The Zephyr chairs, I never even had a chance to snag one, they were always sold out. Very sad life for me… :(
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Same. I have fond memories of lapping Looking Glass as a kid. I’d love to give a good home to one of the chairs.
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this lift has been closed for at least a week – anyone heard what is going on with it?
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There could be may factors, here is what comes to my mind and what I read.
1. Mechanical Issues (New Years day, Lift stuck in first gear and the other day, lift closed to mechanical)
2. Employees have Covid-19 (I read that some a lot of employees have been testing Positive)
3. No-Reason to Open (They close the lift if not a lot of people attend to save money)
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Olympia Express holds most of the traffic in that area, so this double may of just not been needed that week.
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Prospector also accesses the same runs and it is a HSQ.
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If any wants to see the Looking Glass drive, it’s the first link, the second is my Discord page if you want to see more behind the scenes of lifts. Again, this is not my photo, all credits go to Axewolfe17 on my Discord page.
Photo: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/931590124251267123/934536147764408340/44220C18-BB8D-4341-B054-0E12FA8D6F90.jpg
Discord: https://discord.gg/mpzszkrs
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She’s been down for the past week do to something with the brakes. Maintenance is trying to see if they can test it at a higher braking force, and if it works it can reopen, but if it doesn’t she will most likely be closed for the rest of the season. The end of looking glass may come sooner then expected.
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They got it back open.
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I worked on the LG as a lift op from 2002-2004. I hope they never take it down, as it’s a piece of history and holds a special place in many people’s hearts. Even 20 years ago the fact that they’ve kept it well maintained and operable was a point of pride for the resort.
If they do replace it, I hope I find out and can get one of the chairs shipped back to my home on the east coast, as it holds a certain sentimental value to me.
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Here’s an original watercolor painting of the LG. (Prints available from the artist) Maybe she will paint the lift shack.
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This may upset people, but they should do destructive testing on this lift when it gets removed like what they did with Eskimo
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No need to. They learned what they needed to about Riblets when they blew up poor old Eskimo. Let Looking Glass go out in style. Turning till it’s time to tear her down and sell those uncomfortable center pole chairs off.
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Or, hopefully, off to another ski area when the time comes. Here’s hoping!
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Naah. The days of relocating 1960s era Riblets are gone. Especially when there are plenty of 1980s and 90s vintage Doppies and Pomas and Yannies available.
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If blowing up Eskimo isn’t going out in style, than I don’t know what is.
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I hope I can snag a chair this was one of my favorite lifts as a child and I will be REALLY sad when they replace it
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This lift has been down for the past week. Winter Park’s home page says “MECHANICAL CLOSURE” does anyone now the reason?
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been skiing this lift since the 90’s! is there a replacement planned for it?
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Last I heard the rumor was that they were planning on replacing it with the former CTEC Sunnyside triple, but I haven’t heard any recent news about the replacement. That lift came down way back in 2019. I haven’t been up there in a couple years, but I believe that lift is still sitting in pieces in the Corona Siding lot at Mary Jane.
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Its not going to be replaced with the old Sunnyside, that was a false misconception from me. The chairs were auctioned off back in 2019 and most of the lift was scrapped, with only some components at the resort. It’ll be replaced with a new 6 pack as stated in the recent master plan running to the top of the zips hill. I got to operate this lift recently and by what most guests were expressing, it will be missed by a lot.
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I rode this lift in January of 2020. Impressive how well winter park and the L.M staff have done in keeping this lift in such nice looking shape. At the time it appeared to still have original swing dampeners and halos from what it appeared. It will be sad to see this lift eventually go, along with countless other classic fixed grip lifts.
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With the Sunlight upgrades, this is now the officially the oldest ski use lift in CO, correct? And I heard this one won’t be lasting much longer either.
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