Upper stretch of the lift line in the summer.Riding up at tower 10.This workhorse lift was heavily modified by Doppelmayr following the Yan issues at nearby Quicksilver.The lift line is very long with nearly 200 chairs on the line.Lower station seen just before retirement.Side view of the bottom terminal.Upper station with the Peak Express in the background.Middle part of the lift line.An offset Yan tower.Yan tower.View riding up the line.Arriving up top.Doppelmayr towers at the summit.View down the line.Middle part of the lift line.Doppelmayr combination assemblies on Yan towers.Doppelmayr Worldbook entry.
Yes, it always has long lines whenever I’ve been! I’m surprised they haven’t upgraded it yet! I feel that when they get to doing Whistler Westside that they will upgrade this to a 6 or 8. Maybe give it bubbles too? Oh, and while they’re at it, heated seats…
Current plans are to supplement Big Red instead of to upgrade it. They’re going to run a gondola from Creekside to the top of the Chic Pea. Then, Franz’s will be upgraded to a detachable quad, an realigned to run to the top of the T-Bars.
Not Really. Big Red (2,800pp/h) will be served by the Creekside Gondola (2,370pp/h), and Franz’s (2,800pp/h) will be served by Orange (2,200pp/h). There’s a lot of lifts that need installation before Big Red gets an upgrade.
The terrain has a very steep cross slope there, so the downhill side needed an extra tower. They didn’t put a regular tower to support both sides of the line because it would’ve had the uphill side very high and susceptible to wind closures. Keep in mind this lift was once a Yan detachable that was upgraded by Doppelmayr. Yan often used wraparounds for one sided towers as was done here.
I was up there the other day and noticed something a bit odd in the top terminal. I had a picture of the top terminal from the previous summer and the sticker said it had a 50% download capacity, and it was loaded as such. However, in my recent trip this winter, they had stuck a new sticker on top of the previous sticker reading 0% download capacity. Could that just be for the winter, or does that mean the lift failed some sort of test?
What’s the point of the orange gondola? They should upgrade big red to a six or even eight, replace franz’s and the t bars with a detach quad, and upgrade Creekside to a 8 or 10 passenger version.
There is a plan, I think to have a high speed quad replace Franz’s and the old T-Bars. As for the Orange upgrade, I’d honestly say putting a high speed quad or six pack running from the bottom of Big Red to the top of Garbanzo Express would be the smarter strategy. It would allow people to access the Emerald and Garbanzo areas from Creekside while bypassing the Roundhouse.
Isn’t the whole point of the Orange Gondola to increase out-of-base capacity so that more people use Creekside, and redirect people from Big Red to Franz’s and Emerald?
I agree but with a slight variation. If it were me I would move the current Big Red Chair to install the Franz/T-Bar Chair. Then I would replace both Creekside and Big Red with a 10 PAX Gondola similar to Blackcomb Gondola starting at Creekside, mid-station at Raven’s Nest then an extension to the Roundhouse Lodge. There is enough room for a cabin barn at the mid-station. Means you could get from Creekside to the Rendezvous in two lifts.
Big Red is a lapping lift, and I don’t think it would be wise to have it where people have to take off their equipment after each lap. It makes more sense to keep Big Red as a chairlift.
I mean.. it is a once in a century kind of event.. But as somebody who has preferred chairlifts since the start, I’d be happy to see them as an alternative more often.
What’s going to happen to the existing lift after it’s replaced? Is it going to be reused either somewhere else on Whistler // Blackcomb // another resort or is it gonna be retired??
I kinda hope that Big Red 6 keeps the vibrant red of the terminals on Big Red 4. The UNI-G was practically built for the purpose of having more flexibility with colors, and the UNI G lifts at Northstar and Beaver Creek are great ways of seeing what the red paint job looks like.
Not sure if this has been mentioned on here yet or if it was already obvious, but I confirmed with WB that they’re not relocating this lift, the chairs are being sold off and I think most of the parts are going to Catskinner, Fitz, and all the other mechanically similar lifts.
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This lift by the look of the lines should be a detach 6 of not detach 8
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yes. This should be canada’s first 8 pack chairlift
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Yes, it always has long lines whenever I’ve been! I’m surprised they haven’t upgraded it yet! I feel that when they get to doing Whistler Westside that they will upgrade this to a 6 or 8. Maybe give it bubbles too? Oh, and while they’re at it, heated seats…
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Current plans are to supplement Big Red instead of to upgrade it. They’re going to run a gondola from Creekside to the top of the Chic Pea. Then, Franz’s will be upgraded to a detachable quad, an realigned to run to the top of the T-Bars.
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Then a detach 6 would still make sense
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Not Really. Big Red (2,800pp/h) will be served by the Creekside Gondola (2,370pp/h), and Franz’s (2,800pp/h) will be served by Orange (2,200pp/h). There’s a lot of lifts that need installation before Big Red gets an upgrade.
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What is that wrap around tower for?
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The terrain has a very steep cross slope there, so the downhill side needed an extra tower. They didn’t put a regular tower to support both sides of the line because it would’ve had the uphill side very high and susceptible to wind closures. Keep in mind this lift was once a Yan detachable that was upgraded by Doppelmayr. Yan often used wraparounds for one sided towers as was done here.
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There was another reason too. The foundation placed there was from the original Red chair.
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Is anything else yan here besides the towers?
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The terminal masts are from the original Redline.
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The terminal masts
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I was up there the other day and noticed something a bit odd in the top terminal. I had a picture of the top terminal from the previous summer and the sticker said it had a 50% download capacity, and it was loaded as such. However, in my recent trip this winter, they had stuck a new sticker on top of the previous sticker reading 0% download capacity. Could that just be for the winter, or does that mean the lift failed some sort of test?
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What’s the point of the orange gondola? They should upgrade big red to a six or even eight, replace franz’s and the t bars with a detach quad, and upgrade Creekside to a 8 or 10 passenger version.
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There is a plan, I think to have a high speed quad replace Franz’s and the old T-Bars. As for the Orange upgrade, I’d honestly say putting a high speed quad or six pack running from the bottom of Big Red to the top of Garbanzo Express would be the smarter strategy. It would allow people to access the Emerald and Garbanzo areas from Creekside while bypassing the Roundhouse.
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Isn’t the whole point of the Orange Gondola to increase out-of-base capacity so that more people use Creekside, and redirect people from Big Red to Franz’s and Emerald?
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I agree but with a slight variation. If it were me I would move the current Big Red Chair to install the Franz/T-Bar Chair. Then I would replace both Creekside and Big Red with a 10 PAX Gondola similar to Blackcomb Gondola starting at Creekside, mid-station at Raven’s Nest then an extension to the Roundhouse Lodge. There is enough room for a cabin barn at the mid-station. Means you could get from Creekside to the Rendezvous in two lifts.
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Big Red is a lapping lift, and I don’t think it would be wise to have it where people have to take off their equipment after each lap. It makes more sense to keep Big Red as a chairlift.
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With the current situation, Whistler is definitely reconsidering building more gondolas with no back up lift.
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I mean.. it is a once in a century kind of event.. But as somebody who has preferred chairlifts since the start, I’d be happy to see them as an alternative more often.
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Does anyone know where to find pictures of the original yan redline express? Also the original yan greenline and quicksilver express?
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Pics of original YAN Redline:
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I’m surprised Yan didn’t put more red onto Redline’s terminals.
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Me too. I love the pancake design of the terminals though. It’s looks very clean and modern
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What’s going to happen to the existing lift after it’s replaced? Is it going to be reused either somewhere else on Whistler // Blackcomb // another resort or is it gonna be retired??
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I kinda hope that Big Red 6 keeps the vibrant red of the terminals on Big Red 4. The UNI-G was practically built for the purpose of having more flexibility with colors, and the UNI G lifts at Northstar and Beaver Creek are great ways of seeing what the red paint job looks like.
This is what Big Red 6 should have.
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Not sure if this has been mentioned on here yet or if it was already obvious, but I confirmed with WB that they’re not relocating this lift, the chairs are being sold off and I think most of the parts are going to Catskinner, Fitz, and all the other mechanically similar lifts.
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Red is a twin to Catskinner so we are keeping all the parts for that primarily. They can be used in some others as well though.
Rob :-)
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