Cloudsplitter – Whiteface, NY

The Cloudsplitter Gondola opened in 1999, providing the first-ever one seat ride to Little Whiteface Mountain.
The bottom terminal and first two towers near the base lodge.
Doppelmayr Uni return terminal.
View down at tower 7.
Side view of the bottom station.
Tower 1.
Another view of the big lower station.
Riding over the Bear double.
Depression assemblies on tower 8.
View down at T13.
There is a short downhill section around the mid point of a ride.
Tower 19.
Reinforced lifting frame on T15.
The tallest towers of the whole lift – 4 and 5.
Conveyor into cabin parking.
Most of the lift seen from the Whiteface access road.
View up at tower 8.
A cabin ascends the first steep rise.
The last section before the summit is even steeper.
Tower 19 with a view of the summit.
Big depress assemblies on 15 and 16.
Towers 22-25.
The best breakover in the East!
Small maintenance rail up top.
Another view of towers 23-25.
This is the drive location.
Looking down towards the base.
Arrival side up top.
The turnaround with pin rails.
A big shack for a big lift.
Another angle on the drive.
The top of the gondola seen from the actual Whiteface summit.
Gangloff cabin with a DT-108 grip.
The Bear crossover from the side.
Towers 1-3.
Cabins seat 8 with exterior ski racks.
Combo assemblies on tower 3.
The lift line.
Loading area at the base.
Tunnel into the parking facility.
Doppelmayr Worldbook entry.
Any American lift that gets two pages in the book is a major machine.

4 thoughts on “Cloudsplitter – Whiteface, NY

  1. Collin Parsons October 15, 2018 / 7:13 am

    While still an cool lift, there are several operational issues with Cloudsplitter. It is plagued by wind closures, being down at least once every 2 weeks. The bear crossing, top of the first climb, and the breakover are the problem spots. They are also not allowed to install wind fences as part of APA regulations. The other issue is that it is not run anywhere near full speed and they only allow 6 people to load each cabin, so the capacity is around 1000/hr for what is functioning as the the main out of base lift and workhorse lift that everyone laps. That results in long wait times almost every weekend. The 2018 Unit Management Plan does provide a solution by installing a high speed quad to replace the Freeway Lift on a different alignment that will start at the base and end on the approach trail, providing a much needed alternative and relief to the gondola.


    • snowbasinlocal12894 October 15, 2018 / 3:31 pm

      Strawberry gondola at snowbasin UT has problems with wind at the top because the top terminal is on a ridge. The main gondola needles has less severe wind problems but one time the needles doors opened up while still on the cable because of the wind rushing inside of the cabin from the open windows which scared everyone inside of the cabin. This gondola and the 2 at basin have a lot in common. All three gondolas have wind problems. Needles gondola crosses over a chairlift and this lift does too. Same manufacture and are roughly the same age. Snowbasin still runs both gondolas almost full speed and loads at max 8 passengers. Also none of basin’s gondolas have pins. Does this gondola have X model cabins or are they omegas? X models are super rare and basin’s both gondolas and Banff gondola in Alberta have x models


      • Peter Landsman October 15, 2018 / 3:36 pm

        The Cloudsplitter cabins are neither Xs nor Omegas but rather Gangloff Spacecabs. Gangloff is now a wholly owned subsidiary of BMF. I think it’s a shame the cabin manufacturers are no longer separate from the lift manufacturers. We probably won’t see any more Gangloff cabins in the US because of it.


  2. Collin October 15, 2018 / 3:49 pm

    There are several Doppelmayr gondolas that were built around this time. In 1998 it was Needle’s and Strawberry at Snowbasin, Upper Panorama at Mammoth, and Telecabine Express at Tremblant. In 1999 it was Cloudsplitter at Whiteface and Lower Panorama at Mammoth. In 2000 it was the gondola at Heavenly. Mammoth and Heavenly have Omega cabins, Snowbasin has X cabins, and Tremblant and Whiteface have Gangloff cabins. They are all long lifts with a high vertical rise, have good looking breakovers, and design speeds of 1200 feet per minute (give or take).

    Here’s a video I took of Cloudsplitter back in March:


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