Creekside Gondola – Whistler Blackcomb, BC

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Bottom terminal and lift line at Creekside base.
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Poma Omega gondola terminal.
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View up the line during Olympics construction.
Whistler Trip 222
The top drive station with cabin maintenance facility.
Lower part of the lift line.
Side view of the bottom station.
View riding out of Creekside.
Middle lift line.
Tower 16.
View down at T16.
Steep upper part of the line.
A Yan tower tube with Poma head.
Poma breakover towers.
Cabins in the turnaround up top.
Lift overview.
Upper station overview.
Side view of the top station.
Tower 19.
Lower lift line.
Tower 14.
As of this lift’s last season of operation, there are many cabins with advertising wraps.
Cabin 52.
Tower 7.
Lower terminal near the Kadenwood Gondola station.
Lower station with portal integrated sheave assemblies.

39 thoughts on “Creekside Gondola – Whistler Blackcomb, BC

  1. Andrew November 1, 2017 / 11:03 pm

    Were any other Poma gondolas built with this model of gondola cabin?

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  2. Kai Glidden July 21, 2018 / 6:51 am

    What is the black spike on the bottom of each cabin for?

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    • Peter Landsman July 21, 2018 / 7:07 am

      Pin for the ground level rails in the terminals. Now with level walk in boarding, the entire cabin is the pin.

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      • snowbasinlocal12894 July 21, 2018 / 7:27 am

        Interesting. None of snowbasin’s doppelmayr gondolas aren’t level and have no guide rails or pins. Did only POMA use pins?

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      • Collin July 21, 2018 / 2:28 pm

        I’ve never seen a Doppelmayr/CWA gondola with pins. The two in North America with Gangloff cabins (Whiteface and Tremblant) have them however.

        The CWA cabins tend to have a guide rail on the inside like Loon has. Gore has a Poma gondola with CWA cabins and it has the Doppelmayr style rail system while Killington (also Poma) has the pins on the bottom.

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        • Ted March 5, 2019 / 5:04 pm

          There are numerous Doppelmayr gondolas with omega cabins and pins. Outpost at Keystone and the gondola at Mont Sainte anne and excalibur at W-b are examples. Whistler village and stratton are both lwi gondolas built by poma with pins.

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      • Billy B. July 24, 2018 / 7:51 pm

        An interesting one to note is Gondola 19 at Vail, a 1996 Garaventa CTEC with CWA X12 cabins. They have level walk-in loading and pins on the bottom.

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  3. skier72 December 2, 2020 / 5:15 pm

    Original Quicksilver express:



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    • Donald Reif December 2, 2020 / 7:22 pm

      Yan’s detachable terminals were very minimalistic compared to the closest equivalents Doppelmayr and Poma made to them.

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      • V12Tommy September 25, 2021 / 1:59 am

        So were the spring pressures on their grips too. ;)

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        • pbropetech November 30, 2021 / 12:25 pm

          No. There were other factors in play, and the grip was probably poorly designed, but but spring pressure was in line with any other type of detachable grip. It would have to be. Unfortunately our Yan big book of knowledge doesn’t have detaches in them (since we never had any) or I could tell you numbers.

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    • p4rtridg3 March 12, 2022 / 1:20 am

      Holy crap, these pictures are awesome!
      I can only assume the last photo shows the beginning of the original Redline lift as well.

      Cheers!

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  4. skitheeast February 6, 2021 / 9:43 pm

    I am always surprised they still have zero redundancy for this lift. It is 25 years old and cannot handle the Creekside traffic alone. It is also not an issue of throwing too many bodies on the trails, as the entire western part of the mountain is underdeveloped with zero lifts in the Peak to Creek area.

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  5. Alex February 6, 2021 / 9:58 pm

    100% agree that they should replace this lift ASAP. I would suggest a 10 Pax Gondola (like the Blackcomb Gondola) with a mid station at Ravens Nest and extend it to Roundhouse.

    I wonder if they could repurpose the Creekside gondola as a HSQ to install the Franz HSQ? I mean it was installed after Harmony HSQ. AussieRob do you know if that would be possible?

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    • Morris May 20, 2021 / 3:20 pm

      As someone who stays at the Creekside area at whistler, I would definitely love something like this instead of the Orange gondola they currently have on their master plan. Having access to the roundhouse would mean easier summer sightseeing trips if they decided to run it in the summer. I kind of doubt they’d do something like that though.

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    • V12Tommy September 25, 2021 / 2:01 am

      My understanding is that the lift is getting replaced next summer with an 8 person gondy.

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  6. Matthew Toy July 29, 2021 / 6:16 pm

    This lift really needs to go. Not only is the capacity not enough, but it’s extremely uncomfortable and the cabins aren’t in very good condition. One of the worst major lifts at WB in my opinion.

    The whole right side of Whistler is also in need of capacity upgrades, I liked what they did on Blackcomb by repurposing an older HSQ further up the mountain and punching up a new Gondola. Perhaps a Gondola 8 up to Raven’s Nest to replace Creekside, a new HS6 to Roundhouse where Big Red currently is, and repurposing Big Red as Franz’s Express since it isn’t too old.

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    • Donald Reif September 25, 2021 / 7:34 am

      With Big Red becoming a six pack, I wouldn’t be surprised to see the existing quad being repurposed for replacing Franz’s and the Whistler T-Bar.

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      • Morris October 25, 2021 / 5:57 pm

        I would love to see that as I know that’s something they have in their master plan. Gotta get some more pictures of the current gondola before it gets ripped out though :(

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    • Matthew Toy January 25, 2022 / 10:41 pm

      Looks like Vail is doing exactly this! No word on where the existing Big Red will be relocated (if at all). Definitely overdue, very exciting.

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  7. ski man November 11, 2021 / 8:15 pm

    if you look closely at the top terminal of this lift you can see the Yan height adjustments

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    • pbropetech November 30, 2021 / 12:17 pm

      The top terminal is all Poma. What are you seeing that makes you think that?

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      • ski man November 30, 2021 / 4:00 pm

        look at the height adjustments one of the two look like Yan

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        • Rob Withey November 30, 2021 / 10:51 pm

          There is nothing left of the old Yan in the Creekside Gondola, and it has no height adjustment. It is a chair lift terminal with Gondola cabins on it. Spacing has never been good on that lift.

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        • skilifts February 10, 2022 / 4:03 pm

          Correct those are not Yan Height Adjustments.

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  8. Doug November 27, 2021 / 11:02 am

    People are talking about capacity and the lift upgrade. One thing to keep in mind is that when this was built the plan was also to run lifts from creekside up the right side to Bagel Bowl and then back down to Funtion Junction area. The idea was Vancouver day trippers would park there.

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    • Morris November 29, 2021 / 3:45 pm

      I hope they eventually do that buildout. It would be really cool!

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  9. Will April 19, 2022 / 12:40 am

    Why do some people consider these to be the worst gondola cabins ever?

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  10. Morris April 25, 2022 / 8:55 pm

    Goodbye old friend :(. I hope I can manage to buy one of the cabins.

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  11. David Argueso June 19, 2022 / 6:45 am

    Just curious I was looking at Google Maps the street view a HSQ uphill from the Creekside Gondola. It definitely new the terminal design look like Doppelmayr set up.

    I tried to attach a screen shot but having problems with it attaching.

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    • Aidan Reilly June 19, 2022 / 7:12 pm

      That was the old Timing Flats lift used for the Olympics. It was relocated to Sunshine Village after the Olympics.

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  12. Max V. August 20, 2022 / 12:35 pm

    This was a really neat lift, but it was a pain in the ass to use. I’m in North Van and we used to drive up on weekends in the morning. There was always a line. There’s a pedestrian bridge that goes overtop London Lane, and sometimes the line would go past it. You’d be waiting for well over an hour. Now we have a chalet in Creekside area and so it’s easy to wait for when the line is shorter, but I remember being so upset that I had to wait that long to get up.

    It was often annoying, but it was a good lift and I have a lot of memories of it. I’ll miss it a lot but I’m excited to see what the new gondola will be like – I’m assuming it’ll be really similar to the new Blackcomb Gondola.

    Right now they have tower components and sheaves laid out for the new lift near where the old Timing Flats lift ended. I took a bunch of pictures, I’ll send it to Peter.

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