Garaventa CTEC Stealth detachable terminal and lift line.Leaving the base.Crossing under Summit.View down the line.Another view of the line.Tower 12 and the top terminal.Top unload ramp.Another view of the bottom.
Why would Attitash have a fixed grip triple as their summit lift and a detachable quad as their mid mountain lift. It seems a little weird! Also, R.I.P. Top Notch :(
It’s not about the lift going in onto WMNF land, but the downhill capacity of the trails served by the Summit Triple. Peak never saw the required trail upgrades (widening, snowmaking infrastructure & output) combined with permitting to be worth the return on the investment of a HSQ.
When Attitash was originally developed, it was entirely on private land with two lifts: a double chair (later named Old Reliable) where Flying Yankee resides today and a t-bar roughly where the Learning Center triple is. A couple years after opening, they expanded onto White Mountain National Forest land with the Top Notch Double Chair (after a failed attempt at using a monorail).
When Les Otten purchased Attitash and looked to expand the mountain, he actually bypassed expanding past the Summit Triple further into White Mountain National Forest towards Little Attitash Peak and Big Attitash Peak (even though plans had already been submitted to the Forest Service) in favor of expanding onto Bear Peak, which was on private land. This favorability towards development on private land over public land continued when he looked to put a detachable lift on the Attitash side, choosing to replace Old Reliable rather than Top Notch or Summit. He later claimed lift and terrain expansion on private land saved a substantial amount of time, money, and paperwork.
Peak installed zero lifts during their stewardship, so the anti-public land legacy lives on.
The top of the mountain is National Forest. The permitting process is supposedly more difficult (although somehow other ski resorts have managed it). Which is the reason (that I hear) that they’ve been reluctant to replace it. The Flying Yankee purposely stops just below that dividing line, so it didn’t have that issue.
It looks like just cathedral trail. They always have made snow on Moat, but not yet. I also heard the yankee was waiting for a part to operate. Maybe thats why they’re so slow with making snow and opening.
Where the lift crossed under the Summit triple, it shared a tower with that lift. When Summit was replaced with Mountaineer for the 2023-2024 season, they cut off the top half of the tower, and the Mountaineer instead has a tall support tower uphill of the crossover, and two combis below the crossing.
Don’t think I’ve heard that one. When Loveland replaced chair 6, LPOA welded a new crossarm onto the original shared-with-chair 2-tower. Your second point is absolutely correct.
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Why would Attitash have a fixed grip triple as their summit lift and a detachable quad as their mid mountain lift. It seems a little weird! Also, R.I.P. Top Notch :(
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The summit is in the White Mountain National Forest and the owners who built this lift didn’t want to go through the permit process
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It’s not about the lift going in onto WMNF land, but the downhill capacity of the trails served by the Summit Triple. Peak never saw the required trail upgrades (widening, snowmaking infrastructure & output) combined with permitting to be worth the return on the investment of a HSQ.
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When Attitash was originally developed, it was entirely on private land with two lifts: a double chair (later named Old Reliable) where Flying Yankee resides today and a t-bar roughly where the Learning Center triple is. A couple years after opening, they expanded onto White Mountain National Forest land with the Top Notch Double Chair (after a failed attempt at using a monorail).
When Les Otten purchased Attitash and looked to expand the mountain, he actually bypassed expanding past the Summit Triple further into White Mountain National Forest towards Little Attitash Peak and Big Attitash Peak (even though plans had already been submitted to the Forest Service) in favor of expanding onto Bear Peak, which was on private land. This favorability towards development on private land over public land continued when he looked to put a detachable lift on the Attitash side, choosing to replace Old Reliable rather than Top Notch or Summit. He later claimed lift and terrain expansion on private land saved a substantial amount of time, money, and paperwork.
Peak installed zero lifts during their stewardship, so the anti-public land legacy lives on.
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The top of the mountain is National Forest. The permitting process is supposedly more difficult (although somehow other ski resorts have managed it). Which is the reason (that I hear) that they’ve been reluctant to replace it. The Flying Yankee purposely stops just below that dividing line, so it didn’t have that issue.
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The top terminal is located just above the “Welcome to the National Forest” sign.
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The welcome sign is not right at the boundary, it is just where they could fit it
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Why is Attitash not making snow on the trails serviced by the flying yankee? Is something wrong with the flying yankee?
Will this lift be operating in 2021?
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They are currently making snow on the trails off the lift, and they were when I was there last weekend
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It looks like just cathedral trail. They always have made snow on Moat, but not yet. I also heard the yankee was waiting for a part to operate. Maybe thats why they’re so slow with making snow and opening.
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They’re opening it Saturday, and the weather has been bad, so I think that is just really not the case. They were running it on the 28th
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That’s kinda strange, and R.I.P top notch :(
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Where the lift crossed under the Summit triple, it shared a tower with that lift. When Summit was replaced with Mountaineer for the 2023-2024 season, they cut off the top half of the tower, and the Mountaineer instead has a tall support tower uphill of the crossover, and two combis below the crossing.
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Shared towers are no longer permitted. And the overhead lift must not fall onto the lower lift if it deropes.
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Don’t think I’ve heard that one. When Loveland replaced chair 6, LPOA welded a new crossarm onto the original shared-with-chair 2-tower. Your second point is absolutely correct.
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