The Gondola mid-station is still there. A little way up the Topridge Triple if you look to your right, you will see a building. That’s the mid-station.
On Gore’s master plan there is a previously approved trail near the Gondola mid-station. Look in the Topridge area and you will see a trail off Foxlair called “2N-L”. The building below is the Gondola mid-station. If they end up cutting those trails, we might get some better access to it.
There used to be bike trails in the area between Topridge and the gondola building. There was also an off the mao route to the building from Foxlair, but that looks mostly grown in now.
the new alignment requires re-classifying land from the adjacent “Wild Forest” … which is something a wilderness area except things like mountain bikes are allowed. A few years ago, New York voters passed a measure to ammend the state constitution to allow for a land bank/land swap procedure that would allow things like that to happen.
I believe the trails to looker’s right of the lift, which include converting ski bowl glades into an open trail, are also part of an effort to provide slopeside real estate, something very elusive for ORDA resorts. I’ve seen renderings at some point with condos alongside the lower return trail.
No idea if any of that would continue to be the plan today.
The new lift is gonna be in the same location as the old one. I don’t know why they changed from the UMP proposal, but they did. Staying in the old corridor should mean less opportunity to clear out glades. They also dropped the proposed backcountry gate, but they’re still building the new lodge and zippy thingy.
I timed the Topridge Triple when I was on it, and it took around 9.0 minutes to ride with no stopping. I hope that Topridge and North get replaced by a detachable in the near future.
A detachable would be nice, but Ski Bowl is rarely open. Gore has good snowmaking on all the trails but it seems like the total capacity is limited. Gore is typically the last mountain in NY to open 100%, and the connection to Ski Bowl never opens until late January. All the money they’re spending on detachable lifts, a new lodge and the zippy thingy would be better spent on snowmaking capacity.
On their master plan, there is an approved lift going from near the bottom of Adirondack Express II to the bottom of the Village Chair. Possibly a new gondola? The lift line is about 1.6 miles, so I would assume it would be a Leitner Poma Gondola, or maybe an HSQ or Six-Pack. If it were up to me, I’d put a mid-load/unload at Burnt Ridge.
i’ve noticed that…i also see many “approved” trails that are over existing glades…i wonder if there’s any specific reason why they have some sort of consideration for that (infact they already did that to halfnhalf)
so topridge is very likely to be replaced this year, which is definitely the one to be replaced first in what the current lineup is. i hope they’ll be able to replace straightbrook or north in the next 5-10 years or so.
Straight Brook I would replace with a Skytrac or Leitner-Poma Fixed-Grip Quad. North I would do a Leitner-Poma Detachable Quad, for speed reasons rather than passenger flow. Topridge looks like it will be a Skytrac Quad with a loading carpet. I wish they did a detachable but oh well.
Does anyone have any information on the double chairlift that is still standing that goes over the parking lot when you first drive in? Today was my first time there and I was wondering what the deal with that was.
my ranking of the gore lifts!! (as of 2024-2025 ski season)
12 – jbar – cute lil thing, but has very minimal utilization (when it ever is utilized) 5/10
11 – village – i highly doubt that people even know this exists (in fact i struggle to even remember ever riding this), but it still has somewhat of a purpose (night skiing and for beginner skiing) so i guess i can give it that 5.2/10
10 – topridge – serves good terrain, but is quite slow and out of date now (“fun” fact: the safety bars are really light and you can kick it up when you need to raise it, definitely what will make this chair memorable to me) 5.5/10
9 – north – pretty much topridge but it’s a quad instead (and yes, it’s a bit newer than topridge as well) 5.9/10
8 – straightbrook – pretty much north but it takes less long (however has dumb loading issue) 6.2/10
7 – bearcub – amazing lift for new skiers!! (this is where i get to the lifts i really like) 6.8/10
6 – sunway – also great for more “experienced” beginners/early intermediates (or for just an extra run at the end of the day lol) 7.1/10
5 – highpeaks – my favorite of the fixed grips by far (if anything it saved darkside, not destroyed it) 7.9/10
4 – adrex2 – on cold days near the end of the ride, it suddenly gets really windy which sucks (could the add a bubble maybe?) 8/10
3 – hudson – i think i rode this one of the first days it was ever open (saturday of mlk weekend?) and it’s an amazing chair really, super fast with minimal wind and lines, but i wish they could’ve done the extended line but i’m still okay with it (hoping they can still add some of the trails/glades? on the ump) 8.6/10
2 – northwoods – gondolas are great, but i’m not the biggest fan of sitting with strangers (i ski in a group of 4 so on chairlifts i don’t really worry about that), however i sorta feel like i need to put this above hudson due to it simply just having more positive qualities sooo 8.7/10
1 – burntridge – but i can’t put the gondola above THIS because of the usual short lines, reduced wind compared to the adrex2, and it being really comfy! while access is not the easiest and has the low trail count in the area like hudson, but i feel like there’s not really a “prefect” lift here, and this (in my opinion) is probably the closest it’ll get to for now 8.9/10
so yea that’s it, won’t really be surprised of there’s a disagreement but whatever this took kinda long and i’m tired now TwT
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A vonroll high speed triple sounds interesting. Does anyone have a picture?
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http://chairlift.org/gore.html
You have to scroll down to it, it’s listed under former lifts.
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Collin’s Sunway video
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On This Trail Map in New York called MT Whitney ski resort it says there is two High Speed T-Bars?!!
Are They Really High Speed Detachable T-Bars?!!
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No, and it doesn’t say that either. Our Storm King runs at 3 m/s, which would probably qualify it as ‘high-speed’. I imagine it’s the same here.
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Did the vonroll detach triple ever get relocated?
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I don’t believe so.
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No it was scrapped
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Does anyone know if there were any trails off the gondola midstation?
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There were no trails from the old midstation.
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So could you even get off there or was it just an angle station?
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Just an angle station, I believe.
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Gore is, sadly, not the “biggest horizontal in the East”, but it comes surprisingly close when the Slidebrook Express is down:
Of course some hypotheticals look way bigger:
Some Western Comps:
And the biggest hypotheticals:
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Does anyone have any more information about the Hudson Express as far as the alignment and any new trails?
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It is an LPA HSQ directly replacing the Hudson chair. I don’t know anything about new trails, tho.
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oops, tried to respond inline but it wound up below :)
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Is the building for the midstation still standing?
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The Gondola mid-station is still there. A little way up the Topridge Triple if you look to your right, you will see a building. That’s the mid-station.
On Gore’s master plan there is a previously approved trail near the Gondola mid-station. Look in the Topridge area and you will see a trail off Foxlair called “2N-L”. The building below is the Gondola mid-station. If they end up cutting those trails, we might get some better access to it.
Here’s the master plan. Look on page 9 for the main mountain. 2018 Gore Mountain UMP Amendment (skimap.org)
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Also look at page 40. It will label the Gondola mid-station.
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There used to be bike trails in the area between Topridge and the gondola building. There was also an off the mao route to the building from Foxlair, but that looks mostly grown in now.
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The 2018 ammendment to the UMP (which is admittedly six years old), calls for a slightly longer alingment:
https://extapps.dec.ny.gov/docs/lands_forests_pdf/gore2018ump.pdf
Some interesting notes on this:
No idea if any of that would continue to be the plan today.
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Here is a (very old) rendering of the proposed condos … again no idea if this is a dead project or not:
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The new lift is gonna be in the same location as the old one. I don’t know why they changed from the UMP proposal, but they did. Staying in the old corridor should mean less opportunity to clear out glades. They also dropped the proposed backcountry gate, but they’re still building the new lodge and zippy thingy.
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I timed the Topridge Triple when I was on it, and it took around 9.0 minutes to ride with no stopping. I hope that Topridge and North get replaced by a detachable in the near future.
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The Hudson Chair took about 9.9 minutes to ride. So glad that’s getting replaced by a detachable.
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A detachable would be nice, but Ski Bowl is rarely open. Gore has good snowmaking on all the trails but it seems like the total capacity is limited. Gore is typically the last mountain in NY to open 100%, and the connection to Ski Bowl never opens until late January. All the money they’re spending on detachable lifts, a new lodge and the zippy thingy would be better spent on snowmaking capacity.
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Updates on the Hudson Express:
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On their master plan, there is an approved lift going from near the bottom of Adirondack Express II to the bottom of the Village Chair. Possibly a new gondola? The lift line is about 1.6 miles, so I would assume it would be a Leitner Poma Gondola, or maybe an HSQ or Six-Pack. If it were up to me, I’d put a mid-load/unload at Burnt Ridge.
2018 Gore Mountain UMP Amendment (See pages 9 and 10).
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i’ve noticed that…i also see many “approved” trails that are over existing glades…i wonder if there’s any specific reason why they have some sort of consideration for that (infact they already did that to halfnhalf)
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so topridge is very likely to be replaced this year, which is definitely the one to be replaced first in what the current lineup is. i hope they’ll be able to replace straightbrook or north in the next 5-10 years or so.
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Straight Brook I would replace with a Skytrac or Leitner-Poma Fixed-Grip Quad. North I would do a Leitner-Poma Detachable Quad, for speed reasons rather than passenger flow. Topridge looks like it will be a Skytrac Quad with a loading carpet. I wish they did a detachable but oh well.
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Does anyone have any information on the double chairlift that is still standing that goes over the parking lot when you first drive in? Today was my first time there and I was wondering what the deal with that was.
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I do not know for sure, It might have been some parts from Gore’s old Riblet’s, or it might have been handmade.
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my ranking of the gore lifts!! (as of 2024-2025 ski season)
12 – jbar – cute lil thing, but has very minimal utilization (when it ever is utilized) 5/10
11 – village – i highly doubt that people even know this exists (in fact i struggle to even remember ever riding this), but it still has somewhat of a purpose (night skiing and for beginner skiing) so i guess i can give it that 5.2/10
10 – topridge – serves good terrain, but is quite slow and out of date now (“fun” fact: the safety bars are really light and you can kick it up when you need to raise it, definitely what will make this chair memorable to me) 5.5/10
9 – north – pretty much topridge but it’s a quad instead (and yes, it’s a bit newer than topridge as well) 5.9/10
8 – straightbrook – pretty much north but it takes less long (however has dumb loading issue) 6.2/10
7 – bearcub – amazing lift for new skiers!! (this is where i get to the lifts i really like) 6.8/10
6 – sunway – also great for more “experienced” beginners/early intermediates (or for just an extra run at the end of the day lol) 7.1/10
5 – highpeaks – my favorite of the fixed grips by far (if anything it saved darkside, not destroyed it) 7.9/10
4 – adrex2 – on cold days near the end of the ride, it suddenly gets really windy which sucks (could the add a bubble maybe?) 8/10
3 – hudson – i think i rode this one of the first days it was ever open (saturday of mlk weekend?) and it’s an amazing chair really, super fast with minimal wind and lines, but i wish they could’ve done the extended line but i’m still okay with it (hoping they can still add some of the trails/glades? on the ump) 8.6/10
2 – northwoods – gondolas are great, but i’m not the biggest fan of sitting with strangers (i ski in a group of 4 so on chairlifts i don’t really worry about that), however i sorta feel like i need to put this above hudson due to it simply just having more positive qualities sooo 8.7/10
1 – burntridge – but i can’t put the gondola above THIS because of the usual short lines, reduced wind compared to the adrex2, and it being really comfy! while access is not the easiest and has the low trail count in the area like hudson, but i feel like there’s not really a “prefect” lift here, and this (in my opinion) is probably the closest it’ll get to for now 8.9/10
so yea that’s it, won’t really be surprised of there’s a disagreement but whatever this took kinda long and i’m tired now TwT
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