David you are right. While many resorts could have replaced parts and brought in new equipment, there were too many mechanical problems. Unfortunately, they had to scrap it for these reasons, as no other resort was willing to take it.
Somehow the Homestake quad at Deer Valley was relocated to Olympic Park and it had “too many mechanical problems.” Also, the lift from Portal Vistas/ Moab Scenic Skyway got relocated to Whitefish and it had a very similar profile to this lift. The only thing I can think of would be that the asking price was too high.
Hmm, I cant help but think this is Raj/David/Ski Washington, but with a different email… Even if the lift had so many mechanical problems, the drive could be replaced, along with other terminal components. Homestake at Deer Valley was similar in that it had a lot of mechanical problems, but made it to Olympic Park and is currently operating. Someone said on this blog that Mission Ridge had acquired a quad from Stevens Pass. I would think it could only be this lift. Mission Ridge has a tendency to buy lifts that no one else would consider buying. If it had so many mechanical problems, Mission Ridge would be a very logical place for a lift like that to go
For all those folks that think the lift is going somewhere else it was actually scrapped. It was scrapped because of the insane profile and mechanical issues of it.
The mechanical problems would explain why Mission Ridge is rumored to have taken it. They do like to buy lifts that no other resort would think of buying. The lift was probably going to be scrapped and Mission Ridge got word of it, so they bought it. Olympic Park bought the Homestake lift from Deer Valley, which was removed due to mechanical issues. The rumors say that Mission Ridge bought a quad from Stevens Pass. I think this is the only quad Stevens Pass has removed, but I could be wrong.
Having ridden this lift quite a bit and having a small amount of knowledge of how lifts are engineered, I have a couple of comments. 1- Jupiter did not have an ‘insane’ profile. It starts, it goes up, it has some dips along the way. Not sure what you mean by that. 2- No matter how the profile ran, sheave loading in the new location would be different, requiring different assemblies in different places. There would be some mixing and matching of the existing assemblies to work with a new profile. Long story short, no ski area willing to buy a used lift would be worried about how the thing *was*, but how it *will be*.
What problems did it have? We’ve got a very similar 1988 CTEC that was installed used to us in 2006 that has been very reliable and one of our best purchases to date, it lost the motor this season and as a result we’re replacing the drive (had the motor rebuilt mid season). Other than that it’s been very reliable and probably one of our best purchases to date (though the Chair 1/Bonanza replacement will probably top that).
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I’ve heard rumors that this is going to Mission Ridge.
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Nope. The lift was scrapped when it was removed
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A 1993 CTEC quad was scrapped? I’d find that one a bit hard to believe.
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I heard that no other resort could take in this lift due to its profile. Also, there were many issues with the lift
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David you are right. While many resorts could have replaced parts and brought in new equipment, there were too many mechanical problems. Unfortunately, they had to scrap it for these reasons, as no other resort was willing to take it.
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Somehow the Homestake quad at Deer Valley was relocated to Olympic Park and it had “too many mechanical problems.” Also, the lift from Portal Vistas/ Moab Scenic Skyway got relocated to Whitefish and it had a very similar profile to this lift. The only thing I can think of would be that the asking price was too high.
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Hmm, I cant help but think this is Raj/David/Ski Washington, but with a different email… Even if the lift had so many mechanical problems, the drive could be replaced, along with other terminal components. Homestake at Deer Valley was similar in that it had a lot of mechanical problems, but made it to Olympic Park and is currently operating. Someone said on this blog that Mission Ridge had acquired a quad from Stevens Pass. I would think it could only be this lift. Mission Ridge has a tendency to buy lifts that no one else would consider buying. If it had so many mechanical problems, Mission Ridge would be a very logical place for a lift like that to go
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For all those folks that think the lift is going somewhere else it was actually scrapped. It was scrapped because of the insane profile and mechanical issues of it.
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Would you call this an “insane profile?” The lift at Portal Vistas was reengineered for the Beginner lift at Whitefish, Montana.
http://www.skilifts.org/old/images/resort_images/ut-portalvistas/scenicride/scenicride.htm
With Skytrac parts being very similar to CTEC parts, a pretty new CTEC being scrapped doesn’t sound logical.
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The mechanical problems would explain why Mission Ridge is rumored to have taken it. They do like to buy lifts that no other resort would think of buying. The lift was probably going to be scrapped and Mission Ridge got word of it, so they bought it. Olympic Park bought the Homestake lift from Deer Valley, which was removed due to mechanical issues. The rumors say that Mission Ridge bought a quad from Stevens Pass. I think this is the only quad Stevens Pass has removed, but I could be wrong.
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According to the spreadsheet Jupiter is the only quad they have removed.
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Having ridden this lift quite a bit and having a small amount of knowledge of how lifts are engineered, I have a couple of comments. 1- Jupiter did not have an ‘insane’ profile. It starts, it goes up, it has some dips along the way. Not sure what you mean by that. 2- No matter how the profile ran, sheave loading in the new location would be different, requiring different assemblies in different places. There would be some mixing and matching of the existing assemblies to work with a new profile. Long story short, no ski area willing to buy a used lift would be worried about how the thing *was*, but how it *will be*.
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What problems did it have? We’ve got a very similar 1988 CTEC that was installed used to us in 2006 that has been very reliable and one of our best purchases to date, it lost the motor this season and as a result we’re replacing the drive (had the motor rebuilt mid season). Other than that it’s been very reliable and probably one of our best purchases to date (though the Chair 1/Bonanza replacement will probably top that).
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Is this lift going somewhere? I thought it was scrapped
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The source that said it was scrapped has proven to unreliable.
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It was probably scrapped because the towers were re-used for the new lift
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Towers can be reused for a new lift and the removed lift can be reinstalled with new tower tubes. The cross arms for a HSQ are different from a FGQ.
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