Lower portion of the lift line.View up the line from near the bottom terminal.Poma Delta tri-leg drive.Loading zone.Riding up the line.Top station unload.Fixed bullwheel.View down from the summit.Middle part of the lift line.View back up the hill.
As of now, development has been limited to the bottom area and about 800 feet along the lift. Some massive homes. Some slope side. Some setback in forest.
I don’t see anyone doing a HST any time soon as the same capacity can be had with a quad or even a six and there are many advantages of using the larger lift.
This lift bears the distinction of being the only Poma keeping this part of the mountain from being segregated as the Doppelmayr section of the hill, since the other three lifts around it (Woodward, Kokomo and Timberline) are all Doppelmayrs.
The towers on this lift appear to be original Poma towers without lifting frames. Yan towers have a different appearance where the cross arm connects to the tower.
Is it, though? The only cats qualified to make that call are the mechanics. Say, if they’re spending all day fixing problems or can’t get parts, then yes. Otherwise, no. The rest is marketing.
Mechanically this lift will spin for a while longer. I do weekly inspections during the winter and standard maintenance in the summer. There’s very little about it that bugs me, except the lack of lifting frames on the towerheads. Operationally it could use an upgrade to K-lift status- 1800 pph, 4 m/s, long load interval. That should make it run continuously without stopping and slowing all the time.
Why would they replace Lumberjack? Unless they are struggling to find parts for it, there really isn’t a point of an upgrade. It almost never sees large lines, and can be easily avoided. If you want to get to Timberline without a slow lift ride, you can take Woodward Express and ski Minor Matter to Timberline. I could see copper eventually replacing this with a quad, but there are more necessary upgrades.
CSL- We want to replace it not because of its mechanical state (it’s solid) but because it serves fabulous beginner terrain. People get used to KX, then they want to step up terrain and come to this lift and don’t know how to load it. As a result it slows and stops regularly. It also runs at 80% speed to try and accommodate said beginners, so even with no slows or stops it’s a ten-minute ride. People avoid it because of that, which is why you don’t see lines there much. Trust me, though, on Saturdays it’s busy.
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Is there a development up there now? Last time I was there, it was all woods.
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As of now, development has been limited to the bottom area and about 800 feet along the lift. Some massive homes. Some slope side. Some setback in forest.
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I don’t see anyone doing a HST any time soon as the same capacity can be had with a quad or even a six and there are many advantages of using the larger lift.
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Do poma lifts from this time have the lifting frames? If so why does this lift (and other poma triples here) not have them.
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Lifting frames didn’t really come into existence until 1984/1985, when Resolution and the original American Flyer were built.
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Some lifts had them long before that. Cannon Mountain’s wooden 1940 Alpine Lift “Upper T-Bar” had them.
https://newenglandskihistory.com/lifts/viewlift.php?id=5
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This lift bears the distinction of being the only Poma keeping this part of the mountain from being segregated as the Doppelmayr section of the hill, since the other three lifts around it (Woodward, Kokomo and Timberline) are all Doppelmayrs.
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The old Kokomo was a poma too.
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Pure coincidence. At one point we had three Pomas, three Yans, and a Heron serving this side.
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Was the third Poma the Park king pomalift?
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K, L, O-1.
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Does this have Yan towers? Riding it now and wondering if it was relocated from somewhere else
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The towers on this lift appear to be original Poma towers without lifting frames. Yan towers have a different appearance where the cross arm connects to the tower.
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When do they plan to replace this lift with a hsq? It is badly in need for an upgrade.
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Is it, though? The only cats qualified to make that call are the mechanics. Say, if they’re spending all day fixing problems or can’t get parts, then yes. Otherwise, no. The rest is marketing.
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Mechanically this lift will spin for a while longer. I do weekly inspections during the winter and standard maintenance in the summer. There’s very little about it that bugs me, except the lack of lifting frames on the towerheads. Operationally it could use an upgrade to K-lift status- 1800 pph, 4 m/s, long load interval. That should make it run continuously without stopping and slowing all the time.
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The replacement has been approved:
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Good that they are replacing it, it was painfully slow when I rode a few days ago, felt like the slowest lift I have ever ridden.
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Why would they replace Lumberjack? Unless they are struggling to find parts for it, there really isn’t a point of an upgrade. It almost never sees large lines, and can be easily avoided. If you want to get to Timberline without a slow lift ride, you can take Woodward Express and ski Minor Matter to Timberline. I could see copper eventually replacing this with a quad, but there are more necessary upgrades.
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CSL- We want to replace it not because of its mechanical state (it’s solid) but because it serves fabulous beginner terrain. People get used to KX, then they want to step up terrain and come to this lift and don’t know how to load it. As a result it slows and stops regularly. It also runs at 80% speed to try and accommodate said beginners, so even with no slows or stops it’s a ten-minute ride. People avoid it because of that, which is why you don’t see lines there much. Trust me, though, on Saturdays it’s busy.
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Is there a timeline for the replacement yet? I would love to see another Leitner-Poma at copper
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No timeline. As we’re approaching February I’d say it’s pretty much out of the question for this summer, at the very least.
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There are some good shots of this lift in the 2016 Furry Ski Weekend video
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