The bottom terminal during summer operations.Top terminal with vault drive and 90-degree unloading.Another view of the top.Upper lift line.Lower lift line.Long version of Doppelmayr CTEC’s Uni-GS terminal.Tall towers near the summit.This lift could be described as a roller coaster with up, flat and even down sections.One of the flat sections.Upper lift line.Another steep section after a down portion.One of many hold down towers.Tower 9.Lower lift line.Lower station area.90 degree loading.Uni-GS terminal.Top station seen from the tram.Drive terminal.Doppelmayr Worldbook entry.
I think it has to do with the wind (the reason Little Cloud has six-pack line gauge is for wind reasons). Because 90 degree loading doesn’t necessitate a six-pack width line (lifts like the Birds of Prey Express and Lower Beaver Creek Mountain Creek Express being proof of this).
Some of the Uni-Gs at Beaver Creek that appear to have the six-pack line gauge were imported from Europe and are anomalies. They, like most if not all European Uni-Gs and North American Uni-Gs prior to 2004, are wider than the Uni-GS and post-2010 Uni-Gs. I’m not sure why this is. The Face Lift at White Face is also a good example. From its introduction until 2004, Uni-Gs were the same world-wide. Now the North American Uni-Gs are noticeably narrower.
It seems like most if not all European Uni-Gs (with the concrete load bearing mast instead of the steel mast on Uni-GSs and post-2010 Uni-Gs) are wider (i.e. a European six-pack will be wider than an North American six-pack, European quad will be wider than a North American Quad, etc…).
However Little Cloud and Peruvian have the six-pack line gauge. It’s tough to judge by looking at the towers, but put King Con at PC, Little Cloud and Gad 2’s terminals side-by-side, and do the same for Tombstone at PC and Peruvian, and one of Deer Valley’s Uni-GSs or something like that. It’s easy to tell then. Those are all fairly new lifts and are the “North American” variant of the Uni-G (the steel mast instead of concrete gives it away).
This lift was very controversial among Snowbird die-hards when it was first installed. The fixed-grip Peruvian it replaced was not nearly as long, only going up to a little above Rothman’s Way to allow skiers to ride up and traverse over to Gad Valley. Most of Peruvian Gulch was really inaccessible to those not riding the tram, so the snow remained untouched as there were significantly fewer people. I think most of those people are okay with this lift now 14 years later, but some are still upset about it.
Season pass holder at Snowbird in 2007-2010, and 2013-2015 and I never heard anyone complain about PDog, apart from it being cold, windy, and long. I spent plenty of time on that side of the mountain too.
I do wish there was another lift just on the lower section though. There’s some great runs down there and some sections of Chips can get “fun”, making it a bit of a pain to lap.
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They should build a snowshed at the top if they keep on having to dig the top terminal out every time there is a major snowstorm.
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There’s a snow fence right above the terminal.
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Like Little Cloud, Peruvian is a high speed quad with the line gauge of a high speed six pack.
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Probably because both stations load/unload at 90 degrees.
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I think it has to do with the wind (the reason Little Cloud has six-pack line gauge is for wind reasons). Because 90 degree loading doesn’t necessitate a six-pack width line (lifts like the Birds of Prey Express and Lower Beaver Creek Mountain Creek Express being proof of this).
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So your are saying snowbird could add six pack chairs if they really wanted too?
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I’d assume that in theory, yes, but I’m not sure if the towers/terminals are designed to hold that much weight.
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Some of the Uni-Gs at Beaver Creek that appear to have the six-pack line gauge were imported from Europe and are anomalies. They, like most if not all European Uni-Gs and North American Uni-Gs prior to 2004, are wider than the Uni-GS and post-2010 Uni-Gs. I’m not sure why this is. The Face Lift at White Face is also a good example. From its introduction until 2004, Uni-Gs were the same world-wide. Now the North American Uni-Gs are noticeably narrower.
It seems like most if not all European Uni-Gs (with the concrete load bearing mast instead of the steel mast on Uni-GSs and post-2010 Uni-Gs) are wider (i.e. a European six-pack will be wider than an North American six-pack, European quad will be wider than a North American Quad, etc…).
However Little Cloud and Peruvian have the six-pack line gauge. It’s tough to judge by looking at the towers, but put King Con at PC, Little Cloud and Gad 2’s terminals side-by-side, and do the same for Tombstone at PC and Peruvian, and one of Deer Valley’s Uni-GSs or something like that. It’s easy to tell then. Those are all fairly new lifts and are the “North American” variant of the Uni-G (the steel mast instead of concrete gives it away).
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Peruvian Has 124 chairs
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This lift was very controversial among Snowbird die-hards when it was first installed. The fixed-grip Peruvian it replaced was not nearly as long, only going up to a little above Rothman’s Way to allow skiers to ride up and traverse over to Gad Valley. Most of Peruvian Gulch was really inaccessible to those not riding the tram, so the snow remained untouched as there were significantly fewer people. I think most of those people are okay with this lift now 14 years later, but some are still upset about it.
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Season pass holder at Snowbird in 2007-2010, and 2013-2015 and I never heard anyone complain about PDog, apart from it being cold, windy, and long. I spent plenty of time on that side of the mountain too.
I do wish there was another lift just on the lower section though. There’s some great runs down there and some sections of Chips can get “fun”, making it a bit of a pain to lap.
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Why is there a vault drive? Does it really serve any purpose?
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I assume to accommodate a large drive motor and a couple of standby diesels in order to move the long and heavy lift.
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Not uncommon to have vault drives on detachable lifts.. Here’s one at Snowbasin for Needles Gondola
Also for the Strawberry Gondola there as well
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I am not sure if I am wrong but over at alta their high speed stealth 3 quads also seem to have a six pack line gauge.
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