Pioneer Express – Winter Park, CO

Long lift line view.
Poma Falcon station.
Loading area at the base.
Chain-drive turnaround.
View back towards the bottom.
Riding up.
Upper part of the line.
Line from above.
Arrival side of the drive.
Alpha-Falcon combo station.
Winter Park at one point had two of these – Summit Express and Pioneer. Summit went to Mission Ridge, WA.
Side view of the top station.
Another view of the line.
Lower lift line.
Poma support tower.
Depression tower in the flats.
Alpha drive unit.

15 thoughts on “Pioneer Express – Winter Park, CO

  1. AM May 23, 2018 / 10:41 pm

    On the top station drive unit, it looks like they attached a fixed grip drive and put it behind a detachable station and combined it.


      • Duncan October 22, 2018 / 12:01 pm

        I had no idea doppelmayr did it too. I always figured it went straight from Quicksilver-like chairs to CLD-260. What was that terminal model called? In fact what was that fixed-grip model called? I know it was common but I can’t quite put my finger on it.


        • atc1701 February 26, 2019 / 5:46 pm

          Both the fixed grip and detachable Doppelmayr models were commonly built in Eastern North America in the early and mid-80s. The detachable terminal doesn’t have a name (the CLD-260 was technically the first one to receive a name), whereas the fixed drive terminal doesn’t have a name either. Doppelmayr tended not to name their fixed grip designs until recent years.

          Dopplemayr tried varying designs in the East at integrating the drive within the terminal. Strangely, they built lifts (see Mont Sainte-Anne) in the East where the drive and detachable equipment were separate even after Doppelmayr had introduced the CLD-260 in the West, which integrated both. To my knowledge, only two detachable lifts in the East built during that period (Atomic Express and at Sommet Saint-Sauveur and the Tremblant/Soleil Express at Tremblant, both in Quebec) actually integrated the drive and detachable equipment. Their drive terminals slightly resemble the CLD-260 terminals.

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    • Max Hart February 25, 2019 / 3:45 pm

      I don’t see any Competition chairs. All of the carriers on this lift are second-gen Arceaux quad chairs.


      • AvocadoAndy February 25, 2019 / 11:37 pm

        If you look closely at the picture, there’s a snowboarder in a turquoise coat that’s riding a different chair.

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      • Connor May 25, 2019 / 8:57 am

        Chairs number 44 and 75 are competition model chairs. I still wonder why.


        • Donald Reif May 26, 2019 / 10:32 am

          Perhaps the old chairs had some structural problems or something.


        • John August 2, 2019 / 8:45 am

          The originals were rejected during NDT. The replacements depend on what Grand Junction has in stock- I was able to get the Arceaux bails for the old Flyer when I rejected a couple, but I was told that doesn’t happen often.


    • robloxcreeperbyme October 5, 2020 / 7:48 am

      alpauris lift has competition chairs too


  2. Ryan August 1, 2019 / 6:47 pm

    Unless she’s had a major overhaul recently, she’s overdue for replacement.


    • Aidan September 29, 2020 / 3:01 pm

      This will be the next replaced lift after sunnyside and possibly after the looking glass replacment.


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