I will miss the wildcat triple. It was a classic thoinkol. They have been removing many ctec and thoinkols. I dont get why they do not sale them? does any one know why? they removed majestic from brighton and it was made in 1955 and it sold. Why not sale the newer lifts?
Snowbasin is owned by a multi-billion company. Snowbasin’s sister resort Sun Valley has given away lifts for free to other ski areas. Maybe no one was interested?
Nope, it was scrapped in 2008. The chairs were sold off (I got me one) and a few parts of the lift made it I believe to Powder Mtn and Nordic Valley for their thiokol doubles at the time.
There just isn’t any demand for a 40+ year old lift when there are 15-30 year old lifts on the market. They are great lifts, no doubt about it but just no demand.
so just a few days ago i went up to snow basin to cheek out the progress. I fond both operator shacks in the parking lot. so the top operator shacks door was open so I went in and i found something on the controls. it said if the rollback button isn’t on push stop the lift and press restart. Because wildcat was not a very busy lift when I went up in winter. I think It had to do with the rollback on the controls how it would not light up.
The skilifts.org website says that John paul has dual tensioning. Probably because how long the lift is and all of the ups and downs on the lift line too.
Also you have the drive and tensioning switched up on porcupine triple. Drive is at the top and the tensioning is at the bottom. Check the video I posted on the comments of porcupine.
On wildcat express someone broke one of the loading gates closest to the return bullwheel and they are loading wildcat with 5 people only. I posted here because there is no comments enabled on wildcat express.
I heard a rumor by ski partol that becker or middle bowl might get replaced with a high speed lift either six or quad this coming summer. We will have to see.
The plan to replace middle bowl Becker and porcupine but I don’t thing it is happening this year the main reason why I say this is because the gm at the mountain I was talking to said that is about 2-3 years out but their plan is to replace those all soon but in the end I hope the lifts all end up selling to other mountains
High speed quads on all three of those lift lines would make the whole main part of Snowbasin detachable lift serviced. Hopefully that might come with the proposed high speed quad for Strawberry basin.
I’m not seeing why Becker should be replaced by a detachable any time soon. It doesn’t directly service any non beginner terrain that can’t be serviced by Needles and Strawberry. Yes, you can access Strawberry from Becker, but you can also access Strawberry from Middle Bowl. Bear Hollow is a complete disaster and Middle Bowl is in a vital location for keeping skier traffic off Bear Hollow and instead allowing skiers to lap the terrain above Bear Hollow. Replacing Becker would only add to the traffic on Bear Hollow. Following the replacement of Wildcat, Middle Bowl has had a lot more usage. A replacement of Middle Bowl will also take pressure off Needles by allowing the same terrain to be accessed via Wildcat to Middle Bowl. I would assume that a Middle Bowl replacement would have to be on an alignment to the left of the existing lift to avoid the lodge at the top.
Middle Bowl as a high speed quad would certainly help out a lot. Maybe the same for Porcupine (just by virtue of its length), but it doesn’t have as much intermediate terrain as Middle Bowl.
Snowbasin owes much of its current state as a large resort to the 2002 Olympics. The mountain had previously been extremely small and geared towards locals. When Sinclar purchased the resort in 1984, they tried expanding it but the USFS stopped them. For the Olympics, Snowbasin was chosen as the downhill site because Alta/Snowbird/LCC could not accommodate the large media/spectator facilities base required and no other Utah resort had a potentially suitable course. In exchange, the USFS gave Snowbasin a large chunk of land, permitted the Strawberry Gondola expansion, and permitted the John Paul/Allen Peak expansion. The Salt Lake Olympics Committee also paid for a large chunk of the John Paul/Allen Peak expansion, as this is where the Olympic course was held.
i have 5 orginal wildcat single chairs and 2 pieces of tower for sale interested make a offer. I cut the hangers off to make them more useable at home but have them and they could be welded back in place. make offer. some one has an old sun valley one for sale for $4000 the lift was started in 193938-39but stopped due to war.. the Goverment then wanted it to help with recreation for the air base so was completed in about 1943
One of the rather steep rope tows I been on, I think they need to raise the top bullwheel or tension up the tow a little more. Too low to the ground. This is coming from a six feet tall 18 year old.
There is a typo on the spreadsheet on the little cat double. In the notes section.
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Should be fixed now, thanks.
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One more thing, both gondolas are a 8 person not a six person and the Wildcat triple is no longer in operation.
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I will miss the wildcat triple. It was a classic thoinkol. They have been removing many ctec and thoinkols. I dont get why they do not sale them? does any one know why? they removed majestic from brighton and it was made in 1955 and it sold. Why not sale the newer lifts?
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Wildcat is super old. I doubt they will reuse the lift. They sold off the chairs to the public already though.
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Snowbasin is owned by a multi-billion company. Snowbasin’s sister resort Sun Valley has given away lifts for free to other ski areas. Maybe no one was interested?
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I would be interested if I had land. I’ve been trying to get the lift…but snowbasin has been so difficult to contact.
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Does anyone know if little cat sold?
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Nope, it was scrapped in 2008. The chairs were sold off (I got me one) and a few parts of the lift made it I believe to Powder Mtn and Nordic Valley for their thiokol doubles at the time.
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There just isn’t any demand for a 40+ year old lift when there are 15-30 year old lifts on the market. They are great lifts, no doubt about it but just no demand.
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so just a few days ago i went up to snow basin to cheek out the progress. I fond both operator shacks in the parking lot. so the top operator shacks door was open so I went in and i found something on the controls. it said if the rollback button isn’t on push stop the lift and press restart. Because wildcat was not a very busy lift when I went up in winter. I think It had to do with the rollback on the controls how it would not light up.
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The skilifts.org website says that John paul has dual tensioning. Probably because how long the lift is and all of the ups and downs on the lift line too.
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Oh yeah dont forget to add Allen peak’s new tower in the spreadsheet.
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Wildcat chairlift is finished and not in construction anymore.
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I found some old lift information you can add to the spreadsheet.
I was told in a instagram post that the old becker and porcupine were built by Poma telecar
The old porcupine platter (Before the double chair) ran from 1956-1961
Then the porcupine double ran from 1961-1986
The becker double chair ran from 1959-1987 Bottom drive
The Wildcat single chair 1948 Bottom drive
The Wildcat double 1964-1985 Bottom drive
https://www.snowbasin.com/blog/75th-anniversary-history-blog-series-the-1950s
https://www.snowbasin.com/blog/wildcat-lift
Also you have the drive and tensioning switched up on porcupine triple. Drive is at the top and the tensioning is at the bottom. Check the video I posted on the comments of porcupine.
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I think that the porcupine platter was built by Huntington.
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Anyone know where I can find pictures of this so called underground parking garage for needles and John Paul Jones?
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I took these myself when I got a tour. https://imgur.com/a/5HEJivV
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On wildcat express someone broke one of the loading gates closest to the return bullwheel and they are loading wildcat with 5 people only. I posted here because there is no comments enabled on wildcat express.
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The Constam T-bar was removed in 1976
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I found some lengths for some of Snowbasin’s old lifts:
The Wildcat Single had 120 chairs and 15 towers, 4800 feet in length, and could carry 300 people per hour.
The Wildcat Double had 16 towers, 5200 feet in length, and could carry 900 people per hour.
The Porcupine double was 4300 feet in length with a 1100 vertical rise and could carry 700 people per hour.
The Becker double had 76 chairs, 2500 feet in length, and 900 people per hour.
The Porcupine Platter was built by Huntington and ran from 1956 to 1961.
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Who built the Wildcat, Porcupine, and Becker double?
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The Becker, Porcupine, and Wildcat doubles were built by Poma-Telecar.
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I heard a rumor by ski partol that becker or middle bowl might get replaced with a high speed lift either six or quad this coming summer. We will have to see.
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The plan to replace middle bowl Becker and porcupine but I don’t thing it is happening this year the main reason why I say this is because the gm at the mountain I was talking to said that is about 2-3 years out but their plan is to replace those all soon but in the end I hope the lifts all end up selling to other mountains
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High speed quads on all three of those lift lines would make the whole main part of Snowbasin detachable lift serviced. Hopefully that might come with the proposed high speed quad for Strawberry basin.
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I’m not seeing why Becker should be replaced by a detachable any time soon. It doesn’t directly service any non beginner terrain that can’t be serviced by Needles and Strawberry. Yes, you can access Strawberry from Becker, but you can also access Strawberry from Middle Bowl. Bear Hollow is a complete disaster and Middle Bowl is in a vital location for keeping skier traffic off Bear Hollow and instead allowing skiers to lap the terrain above Bear Hollow. Replacing Becker would only add to the traffic on Bear Hollow. Following the replacement of Wildcat, Middle Bowl has had a lot more usage. A replacement of Middle Bowl will also take pressure off Needles by allowing the same terrain to be accessed via Wildcat to Middle Bowl. I would assume that a Middle Bowl replacement would have to be on an alignment to the left of the existing lift to avoid the lodge at the top.
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Middle Bowl as a high speed quad would certainly help out a lot. Maybe the same for Porcupine (just by virtue of its length), but it doesn’t have as much intermediate terrain as Middle Bowl.
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Here is some for information on some of Snowbasin’s removed lifts:
The Wildcat Single was built in 1946 and and had a bottom drive and top tensioning.
The Wildcat Double had a vertical rise of 1335 feet and a bottom drive.
The Becker Double had a vertical rise of 600 feet with a bottom drive.
The Porcupine platter tow had a capacity of 350 people per minute.
The Constam T-bar was called Powder Puff.
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Snowbasin owes much of its current state as a large resort to the 2002 Olympics. The mountain had previously been extremely small and geared towards locals. When Sinclar purchased the resort in 1984, they tried expanding it but the USFS stopped them. For the Olympics, Snowbasin was chosen as the downhill site because Alta/Snowbird/LCC could not accommodate the large media/spectator facilities base required and no other Utah resort had a potentially suitable course. In exchange, the USFS gave Snowbasin a large chunk of land, permitted the Strawberry Gondola expansion, and permitted the John Paul/Allen Peak expansion. The Salt Lake Olympics Committee also paid for a large chunk of the John Paul/Allen Peak expansion, as this is where the Olympic course was held.
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i have 5 orginal wildcat single chairs and 2 pieces of tower for sale interested make a offer. I cut the hangers off to make them more useable at home but have them and they could be welded back in place. make offer. some one has an old sun valley one for sale for $4000 the lift was started in 193938-39but stopped due to war.. the Goverment then wanted it to help with recreation for the air base so was completed in about 1943
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How much for tower pieces or a chair?
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How much do you have of the towers I’ll be willing to pay a little bit for it
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There is a new rope tow installed at snowbasin this year
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I’m pretty sure that the handle tow was the old tubing tow that was removed a few years back. The manufacturer appears to be Borer.
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One of the rather steep rope tows I been on, I think they need to raise the top bullwheel or tension up the tow a little more. Too low to the ground. This is coming from a six feet tall 18 year old.
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