Did you read the article? The first sentence says “Installed at a small New York ski area, the world’s original high-speed detachable quad had the right idea with the wrong execution.” Not a high speed double…
I wonder why they didn’t convert the detachable quad into a fixed grip quad. Even if the detachable grip wasn’t designed well, Mohawk could have provided them with replacement grips. I’m pretty sure they built a few fixed grip quads. I would think that it would be more expensive to build an entirely new lift when the old one could have been modified, but Borvig could have easily been cheaper than a retrofit.
A: the chairs were mounted sideways so the towers weren’t nearly wide enough for a normal quad. B: the lift wasn’t necessarily engineered the best, hence why it only lasted 3 seasons, so more mechanical parts and what not would need to be replaced, and C: converting a high speed lift to a fixed grip is in general a production and requires MANY parts to be replaced, and new terminals and sheaves are required as well. The only benefit they would have had by converting it to a fixed quad would be the tower pylons, but for the looks of it the cross arms wouldn’t have been able to be removed so even that wouldn’t have been possible.
It doesn’t look like it’s operating yet, as in operating for public use. They still have to get it certified and other things according to the article.
BlueMont near Springville NY had a lift similar to this, The chairs were sideways and it was detachable. I don’t know who built it bit it was installed in 1959. https://www.nelsap.org/ny/bluemont.html
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How could a detachable double have a capacity of 2400 pph? I’m pretty sure I read somewhere on this blog that it was a detachable quad.
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there is a picture of the high speed double here
https://skiinghistory.org/news/first-flopped
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Did you read the article? The first sentence says “Installed at a small New York ski area, the world’s original high-speed detachable quad had the right idea with the wrong execution.” Not a high speed double…
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no need to be so hostile I linked the article for the picture so I did not read it.
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I wonder why they didn’t convert the detachable quad into a fixed grip quad. Even if the detachable grip wasn’t designed well, Mohawk could have provided them with replacement grips. I’m pretty sure they built a few fixed grip quads. I would think that it would be more expensive to build an entirely new lift when the old one could have been modified, but Borvig could have easily been cheaper than a retrofit.
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A: the chairs were mounted sideways so the towers weren’t nearly wide enough for a normal quad. B: the lift wasn’t necessarily engineered the best, hence why it only lasted 3 seasons, so more mechanical parts and what not would need to be replaced, and C: converting a high speed lift to a fixed grip is in general a production and requires MANY parts to be replaced, and new terminals and sheaves are required as well. The only benefit they would have had by converting it to a fixed quad would be the tower pylons, but for the looks of it the cross arms wouldn’t have been able to be removed so even that wouldn’t have been possible.
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It was actually a detachable quad instead of an detachable double Peter just wanted to let you know.
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Or if you want about this lift witch is basically the first detachable quad in North America or the USA you can call this a High Speed Double/Quad LOL
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Fairly sure the Borvig Double is still operating. Check out this report: https://spectrumlocalnews.com/nys/central-ny/community/2022/02/20/city-of-utica-val-bialas-recreation-center-open-for-winter-break
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It doesn’t look like it’s operating yet, as in operating for public use. They still have to get it certified and other things according to the article.
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Peter, it looks like the Mohawk detachable double was actually a detachable quad. Sure looks like it could fit 4 people.
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BlueMont near Springville NY had a lift similar to this, The chairs were sideways and it was detachable. I don’t know who built it bit it was installed in 1959. https://www.nelsap.org/ny/bluemont.html
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