Lower terminal set up for alpine slide operations.The top station from below.Looking down the line.Yan motor room and unloading ramp.Drive station.Bottom station from above.View up the lift line.
The only Yan fixed grips that had problems were the 1982-1985 models. Those models had aluminum sheaves, which turned out to be a poor choice of material and some had plastic seats, which didn’t do well in the wind. This lift was built in 1977 and doesn’t have aluminum sheaves, or plastic seats. If this lift had any potentially faulty components, it would have been replaced or retrofitted by now.
Don’t forget the Teller lift, which had its bull wheel detach from the hub. “the Teller Lift accident at Keystone was traced to a manufacturing defect, present in all of the Yan 1000 lift models coming from now-defunct manufacturer Lift Engineering.” – SummitDaily
I missed a point you made when I replied a few years back- Arrow has aluminum sheaves, as does Poma/LPOA and the bulk of Doppelmayr’s assemblies. It wasn’t that they were aluminum, it was that the *assemblies* were aluminum as well and had a history of cracking. So did the sheaves, which was definitely an issue, but it was a design flaw and not a material one.
I feel at times that this lift should’ve been the one that got replaced with a high speed quad in 1993, not the Gemini lift. Then again, Gemini was the older lift, and perhaps in the more visible location given the final hill on Parkway under the first part of the lift line.
The top photo can’t be right as it appears as the lift is running Counter-Clockwise, the lift currently runs Clockwise, also you can see a bump further down, this lift doesn’t have anywhere that has a small hill.
This lift should be upgraded to a high speed quad. It runs higher than Gemini and first that looks weird and it takes a long time to lap. I would say that it is historical as an old Yan triple, and it could survive for a few more years. A high speed quad could boost the time. Certainly, with the alpine slide in the summer.
I think a better argument for upgrading is the fact that it’s closer to the Cabriolet and Gondola than the Gemini Express for those coming in off the Cabriolet. And also to make it easier for those who want to ski Larry Sale.
other than early season and summer, this lift basically only gets usage from racers and mogul skiers in the comp center. because of this, this lift should and will stay the way it is for a long time
It is pretty short and there is not much to lap, so I would not bother replacing it unless they changed something. There are more pressing needs elsewhere.
No point to upgrade to a fgq. Detach, then yeah because the ride time is decreased, but replacing it with another fixed grip wouldn’t really be an “upgrade” imo
I could see this lift going detach, as the lines can get decent-sized on weekends, however, I could see WP easily getting a few more years out of this.
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Replace this lift, I don’t trust Yan. To many accidents.
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Yan detachable lifts are really the only ones with major issues. Yan fixed-grip chairs are still safely in use all around the country.
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Why? This is a solid lift.
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The only Yan fixed grips that had problems were the 1982-1985 models. Those models had aluminum sheaves, which turned out to be a poor choice of material and some had plastic seats, which didn’t do well in the wind. This lift was built in 1977 and doesn’t have aluminum sheaves, or plastic seats. If this lift had any potentially faulty components, it would have been replaced or retrofitted by now.
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Don’t forget the Teller lift, which had its bull wheel detach from the hub. “the Teller Lift accident at Keystone was traced to a manufacturing defect, present in all of the Yan 1000 lift models coming from now-defunct manufacturer Lift Engineering.” – SummitDaily
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The Teller lift was in the vintage UPS is talking about.
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I missed a point you made when I replied a few years back- Arrow has aluminum sheaves, as does Poma/LPOA and the bulk of Doppelmayr’s assemblies. It wasn’t that they were aluminum, it was that the *assemblies* were aluminum as well and had a history of cracking. So did the sheaves, which was definitely an issue, but it was a design flaw and not a material one.
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If you could change anything about this lift, what would it be and why?
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I feel at times that this lift should’ve been the one that got replaced with a high speed quad in 1993, not the Gemini lift. Then again, Gemini was the older lift, and perhaps in the more visible location given the final hill on Parkway under the first part of the lift line.
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In these pictures of Arrow’s construction, you can see the Hughes lift it ran parallel to until 1993:
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The top photo can’t be right as it appears as the lift is running Counter-Clockwise, the lift currently runs Clockwise, also you can see a bump further down, this lift doesn’t have anywhere that has a small hill.
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I mistakenly put in a picture of Outrigger.
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Do you mind sending the link to where you found the pictures?
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Someone posted the link awhile back. It can be seen under “Lift Database” and is approximately the 12th comment down.
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https://mountainscholar.org/handle/11124/20019/recent-submissions?offset=1140
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This lift should be upgraded to a high speed quad. It runs higher than Gemini and first that looks weird and it takes a long time to lap. I would say that it is historical as an old Yan triple, and it could survive for a few more years. A high speed quad could boost the time. Certainly, with the alpine slide in the summer.
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I think a better argument for upgrading is the fact that it’s closer to the Cabriolet and Gondola than the Gemini Express for those coming in off the Cabriolet. And also to make it easier for those who want to ski Larry Sale.
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other than early season and summer, this lift basically only gets usage from racers and mogul skiers in the comp center. because of this, this lift should and will stay the way it is for a long time
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It is pretty short and there is not much to lap, so I would not bother replacing it unless they changed something. There are more pressing needs elsewhere.
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This lift is well overdue for an upgrade. Either a high speed or fixed grip quad.
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No point to upgrade to a fgq. Detach, then yeah because the ride time is decreased, but replacing it with another fixed grip wouldn’t really be an “upgrade” imo
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They could make it a HSQ and put a mid station for summer operations and end more to the middle of the mountain.
Like Flying Mile at Tremblant!
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I could see this lift going detach, as the lines can get decent-sized on weekends, however, I could see WP easily getting a few more years out of this.
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