Um I think that carpenter triple either went to be Viking,red cloud or crown point
Carpenter express is actually still a yan! Just has new terminals I think.
Carpenter Express may be Garaventa CTEC when built in 1996, but it reused the towers the old high-speed quad had, so Carpenter Express is Garaventa CTEC/Lift Engineering (Yan). The only thing of yan is the towers with most of the tower heads.
Hi, Peter. I’ve been compiling a Google Earth version of your database, and I’ve come across four lifts at Deer Valley that seem to have statistical errors:
Silver Lake Express: Incorrect vertical. This may be the result of the fact that you are counting both the rise and fall over Bald Eagle Mountain, instead of having them cancel out.
Lady Morgan Express: The lift is far shorter than the value you have written.
Viking: Again, the lift is shorter than the entered value.
Snowflake: You have the old length and vertical entered, from before the bottom station was moved uphill.
If Silver Lake’s vertical is measured from its bottom terminal to its top terminal, then Deer Valley estimates it at 900 ft. If it is from the bottom terminal to its highest point over Bald Eagle Mountain, then Deer Valley estimates it to be 1200 ft.
Homestake was out of commission with a gearbox failure for a while during spring 2018. Rather than an expensive fix, chance for an upgrade for a bottleneck spot. It’s in a sweet spot like the old Ruby and Deer Crest where the fixed chair is long enough to be annoying at a place like DV but the HSQ is short.
Also, Bob Wheaton, the old CEO of DV who now works at Alterra HQ, is on the board of the Olympic Park and may have found a way to kill two birds with one stone. Alterra probably got a nice tax writeoff for it.
Something interesting I noticed while mountain biking up there today.
1. Silver Lake is getting Deasonbuilt bike carriers. I briefly watched while they installed one or two. These are the kind where it attaches to the chair bail.
2. Homestake HSQ has center-pole Deasonbuilt bike carriers on it. Looks like maybe DV has plans to run that lift in the summer now?
Silver Lake getting bike carriers makes tons of sense, especially since there is almost no parking up at Silver Lake this year, due to the construction. DV is trying to encourage people to park at Snow Park, and getting rid of the annoying hooks will help with that.
I have no idea what their plans are with Homestake, other than prevent bikers from having to do the short climb up to the mountain summit.
I managed to find the official summer trail map. This year they will not be running Ruby, so DV will still only be spinning three lifts this summer. My guess is this is supposed to create another portal out of Silver Lake, and encourage more utilization of the front side mountain. I think this is a great thing.
Doesn’t make sense for any of them to be a 6 since the busy peaks of Bald Mountain already has 3 quads and Flagstaff has 4 quads dumping out at the same place. The other outliers aren’t busy enough to warrant a 6.
Silver Lake has a bunch of hours on it for a 1999-build, having been run in the summer and from 8:30 to 4:45 for most of its life. The least-used lift Mayflower would be a good place for it to be relocated as part of the the Mayflower expansion someday.
None of the top terminal locations are very remote, which is probably why they were able to do it. The lone bottom drive is Viking, and I suspect that is becuase the top is right next to the Stein Eriksen Lodge, and they might have have wanted to limit noise there. The geography with several mountain peaks with different lifts converging at the same spot probably would have made it cheaper to run power to one place back in the 1980s to catch every lift’s top terminal instead of running to each of the different bottom terminal locations.
For what it’s worth, Park City (not the Canyons side) is almost 100% top-drive bottom-tension too, exception being Jupiter which has a remote top and Eaglet which has its drive adjacent to top-drive Eagle. The Canyons side probably tried to stretch every last nickel out of construction costs to finish their expansion in the early 2000s and has many more new-build bottom-drive lifts (Saddleback, Peak 5, 9990, the old High Meadow, Dreamscape).
A friend of mine has a place at Deer Crest and he recently told me about some of the comments homeowners made earlier this year around Christmas at a meeting. Keep in mind that Deer Valley takes input from Deer Crest fairly seriously even though many homeowners only use their residences 10 days a year.
-All lifts should be high-speed with heated bubbles (Red Cloud and Mayflower were specifically mentioned as annoyances)
-Ruby and Quincy are too crowded
-The gondola is too crowded in the morning, it should be opened earlier for Deer Crest only so they can go elsewhere before the crowds arrive
-The private trail network should open earlier in the season
-Deer Valley is too crowded
-“No snowboarders” was mentioned more than anything else
I agree with some of those policies but not all, first not all lift should be detachable (Viking, burns, judge, red cloud, mayflower) granted they are all aging but they don’t need to replace yet. Mayflower should be left alone because there is no crowds ever the area is a nice steep black and blue runs best area in the whole mountain. No snowboarder I agree with to be honest.
Um I think that carpenter triple either went to be Viking,red cloud or crown point
Carpenter express is actually still a yan! Just has new terminals I think.
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Carpenter Express may be Garaventa CTEC when built in 1996, but it reused the towers the old high-speed quad had, so Carpenter Express is Garaventa CTEC/Lift Engineering (Yan). The only thing of yan is the towers with most of the tower heads.
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Does anyone know were Clipper was?
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Clipper was located where Silver Lake Express is now.
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You put it on Silver Lake, not Silver Strike. To help you, Silver Lake Express actually has 133 chairs
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Hi, Peter. I’ve been compiling a Google Earth version of your database, and I’ve come across four lifts at Deer Valley that seem to have statistical errors:
Silver Lake Express: Incorrect vertical. This may be the result of the fact that you are counting both the rise and fall over Bald Eagle Mountain, instead of having them cancel out.
Lady Morgan Express: The lift is far shorter than the value you have written.
Viking: Again, the lift is shorter than the entered value.
Snowflake: You have the old length and vertical entered, from before the bottom station was moved uphill.
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Garaventa CTEC’s installation history has Silver Lake at 1,398. I agree they added the two rises rather than listing the net number. Do you have that?
Lady Morgan came directly from Doppelmayr. I agree it is shorter. Have a number?
Yan’s installation data lists Viking as 150 feet long, which is obviously wrong. Again, have a better number?
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I do. These numbers come from Google Earth, so I’d say that there’s a 50′ margin of error on all of them.
Silver Lake (vertical): 908′
Lady Morgan (length): 2786′
Viking (length): 603′
Snowflake (length): 773′
(vertical): 113′
I’m in the process of mapping out every lift, so as I find more discrepancies, I’ll let you know.
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If Silver Lake’s vertical is measured from its bottom terminal to its top terminal, then Deer Valley estimates it at 900 ft. If it is from the bottom terminal to its highest point over Bald Eagle Mountain, then Deer Valley estimates it to be 1200 ft.
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Were did homestake go to?
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I think its going to Utah Olympic park for new terrain.
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Why replace Homestake? It’s not much longer than the other fixed grips. And there is no use really for it cause most people take Sliver Lake down.
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Homestake was out of commission with a gearbox failure for a while during spring 2018. Rather than an expensive fix, chance for an upgrade for a bottleneck spot. It’s in a sweet spot like the old Ruby and Deer Crest where the fixed chair is long enough to be annoying at a place like DV but the HSQ is short.
Also, Bob Wheaton, the old CEO of DV who now works at Alterra HQ, is on the board of the Olympic Park and may have found a way to kill two birds with one stone. Alterra probably got a nice tax writeoff for it.
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Something interesting I noticed while mountain biking up there today.
1. Silver Lake is getting Deasonbuilt bike carriers. I briefly watched while they installed one or two. These are the kind where it attaches to the chair bail.
2. Homestake HSQ has center-pole Deasonbuilt bike carriers on it. Looks like maybe DV has plans to run that lift in the summer now?
Silver Lake getting bike carriers makes tons of sense, especially since there is almost no parking up at Silver Lake this year, due to the construction. DV is trying to encourage people to park at Snow Park, and getting rid of the annoying hooks will help with that.
I have no idea what their plans are with Homestake, other than prevent bikers from having to do the short climb up to the mountain summit.
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I managed to find the official summer trail map. This year they will not be running Ruby, so DV will still only be spinning three lifts this summer. My guess is this is supposed to create another portal out of Silver Lake, and encourage more utilization of the front side mountain. I think this is a great thing.
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What happened to the ruby quad when it was replaced with a G-CTEC HSQ? It was only a few years old.
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Majestic at Brighton.
https://liftblog.com/majestic-brighton-ut/
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Do any of the high speed quads warrant enough traffic for a six pack?
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Doesn’t make sense for any of them to be a 6 since the busy peaks of Bald Mountain already has 3 quads and Flagstaff has 4 quads dumping out at the same place. The other outliers aren’t busy enough to warrant a 6.
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Anyone got a master plan for Mayflower?
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Mayflower Mountain Resort published this earlier this year:
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this would replace silver lake
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That gondola idea has been around for a few years in slightly different alignments (https://snowbrains.com/deer-valley-plans-gondola-link-park-citys-main-street/), and I really hope it eventually gets built one day.
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Silver Lake would definitely make more sense as a gondola. Reuse the current lift to upgrade Mayflower or something.
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Silver Lake has a bunch of hours on it for a 1999-build, having been run in the summer and from 8:30 to 4:45 for most of its life. The least-used lift Mayflower would be a good place for it to be relocated as part of the the Mayflower expansion someday.
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Man, deer valley must love top drive bottom tension lol
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iirc it’s the most efficient when it comes to energy consumption, which is why it’s not too common to see bottom drive/top tension.
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None of the top terminal locations are very remote, which is probably why they were able to do it. The lone bottom drive is Viking, and I suspect that is becuase the top is right next to the Stein Eriksen Lodge, and they might have have wanted to limit noise there. The geography with several mountain peaks with different lifts converging at the same spot probably would have made it cheaper to run power to one place back in the 1980s to catch every lift’s top terminal instead of running to each of the different bottom terminal locations.
For what it’s worth, Park City (not the Canyons side) is almost 100% top-drive bottom-tension too, exception being Jupiter which has a remote top and Eaglet which has its drive adjacent to top-drive Eagle. The Canyons side probably tried to stretch every last nickel out of construction costs to finish their expansion in the early 2000s and has many more new-build bottom-drive lifts (Saddleback, Peak 5, 9990, the old High Meadow, Dreamscape).
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A friend of mine has a place at Deer Crest and he recently told me about some of the comments homeowners made earlier this year around Christmas at a meeting. Keep in mind that Deer Valley takes input from Deer Crest fairly seriously even though many homeowners only use their residences 10 days a year.
-All lifts should be high-speed with heated bubbles (Red Cloud and Mayflower were specifically mentioned as annoyances)
-Ruby and Quincy are too crowded
-The gondola is too crowded in the morning, it should be opened earlier for Deer Crest only so they can go elsewhere before the crowds arrive
-The private trail network should open earlier in the season
-Deer Valley is too crowded
-“No snowboarders” was mentioned more than anything else
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I agree with some of those policies but not all, first not all lift should be detachable (Viking, burns, judge, red cloud, mayflower) granted they are all aging but they don’t need to replace yet. Mayflower should be left alone because there is no crowds ever the area is a nice steep black and blue runs best area in the whole mountain. No snowboarder I agree with to be honest.
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