Jackson Hole, WY

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41 thoughts on “Jackson Hole, WY

  1. tjskiloaf17 December 5, 2016 / 5:44 pm

    what is next on the JH master plan?


    • Peter Landsman December 5, 2016 / 5:51 pm

      New Eagle’s Rest chairlift, additional magic carpets and a lift in Cody Bowl. I would like to see a detachable replace Thunder and a new Lower Faces lift from the bottom of Union Pass to the bottom of Sublette.


      • ACA Allertor June 30, 2017 / 6:15 am

        What will the new Eagle’s Rest be? (Quad, triple, fixed, detachable)


        • Peter Landsman July 10, 2017 / 9:57 am

          Likely a fixed-grip quad. Relocated Thunder would be perfect if it goes detachable.


        • Henry December 23, 2021 / 12:36 pm

          Why always quads why don’t we do a triple in the lower face area
          And Apres Vous a 8 person or 6 person with a bubble chairlift. A triple chair in Saratoga bowl. Jackson should do that


  2. Clark May 1, 2017 / 3:25 pm

    What is the unit on line speed? Also, what does it represent?


    • Peter Landsman May 1, 2017 / 3:45 pm

      Feet per minute. It is the maximum speed the haul rope is designed to move.


  3. Ryan June 12, 2017 / 11:30 pm

    Did Sweetwater Yan go onto someplace else?


  4. tjskiloaf17 June 16, 2017 / 8:16 am

    never heard of the rendezvous platter before. Why was it removed?


    • skier72 April 10, 2020 / 9:59 am

      Rendezvous platter was way up the mountain! Just look at the top of the tram to the left on an old ski map, and you see it following the black ski run #8. My guess is they removed it due to avalanche concerns, or the lift was taken out by an avalanche. At any rate, it’s long gone.

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  5. alex July 21, 2018 / 12:35 pm

    I am sure this is a sacrilegious question but has Jackson Hole ever considered replacing both Thunder and Sublette with one detachable (e.g. from bottom of Thunder to top of Sublette)? A six pack perhaps? As it appears to me that you can ski access all of the Thunder terrain from the top of Sublette.


    • Ryan Murphy July 21, 2018 / 8:01 pm

      You can, but it’s a nasty traverse. Would be a bad idea given the traffic on it, plus Sublette can be a wind nightmare. They make sense as separate lifts.


    • Peter Landsman July 21, 2018 / 8:33 pm

      I’ve never heard that idea because, as Ryan says, Laramie Traverse is only one cat width and Thunder can often run when Sublette is down for wind. As I said above, I would replace Thunder with a high speed quad spinning the opposite direction as it does today. The towers and chairs could probably be reused. I would do a contour load facing north and a contour unload facing south. The Thunder terminals could then be used for a new Eagle’s Rest beginner lift with a few new towers.

      Even though it’s older, I think Sublette will stay as it is for awhile. After a Thunder replacement, I wonder about the possibilities in the Lower Faces and Cody Bowl.


  6. Ryan August 1, 2018 / 10:25 pm

    Any other of the retired lifts besides Sweetie go onto other mountains?


    • Peter Landsman August 2, 2018 / 6:44 am

      Casper went to Magic Mountain, Idaho. Apres Vous is at Marshall Mountain, Montana. Eagle’s Rest was scrapped. Not sure about the old Pomas, Crystal Springs, Teewinot and Thunder.

      We need a Skytrac to carry on the tradition of at least one lift from every major lift manufacturer. Murray-Latta, Hall, Mueller, Riblet, Heron-Poma, Poma, CTEC, Lift Engineering, Leitner-Poma, Doppelmayr CTEC, Garaventa and Doppelmayr so far!


  7. Peter Landsman August 2, 2018 / 7:46 pm

    My idea of a JH master plan below with two new lifts in the Lower Faces, one in Casper Bowl and one near the Sweetwater mid-station. The Moose Creek area would be perfect for a second base area but unfortunately that ship has sailed.

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    • Donald Reif January 30, 2020 / 3:43 pm

      I would be all for the Lower Faces lifts, as it would mean not having to take Union Pass out and back to the Tram.


      • Somebody January 30, 2020 / 7:10 pm

        I disagree, what makes the hobacks so special is the fact that they stay fresh. Every skier on them is an expert looking for powder, and adding lifts there would just result in them getting tracked faster. In my opinion, if they build a lift over there, it should open new terrain, but that’s probably a pipe dream.


        • Donald Reif January 30, 2020 / 7:36 pm

          OTOH, distributing skiers across the mountain is more important than preserving powder for the powder junkies. I mean, I remember powder junkies who were critical of Vail for building the High Noon Express lift, nevermind that the triple had very long lines.


    • Henry December 28, 2021 / 4:19 pm

      What will the lower face chairlift be called what capacity will they be will they have bubbles on them? six, quad, triple, double?


    • awconrad December 30, 2021 / 1:03 pm

      Has there ever been a plan to put lifts and a second base on the east side of Apres Vous mountain in the Saratoga bowl? It seems that would be the best place for a new base area since Moose Creek is out of the question.


      • skitheeast December 30, 2021 / 1:48 pm

        Going up from the main base towards Apres Vous Mountain, private homes line the ski area boundary until a little above the Apres Vous lift. A little further up, Saratoga Bowl Traverse goes alongside the resort’s boundary against Grand Teton National Park. The only potential area would be southeast below St. John’s if they could thread a trail in between private property boundaries and Grand Teton National Park.


  8. skiz January 30, 2020 / 1:27 pm

    I noticed this handle tow. I assume this is private homeowner access, but i’d be curious to know about it.

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  9. Somebody March 2, 2020 / 5:18 pm
    • Henry December 28, 2021 / 4:17 pm

      is there anymore old chairlifts at the moutain resort like the old teewinot double or any other old jhmr chairlift photo/s


  10. Henry T October 11, 2020 / 6:05 pm

    On the master plan it proposes a new slalom lift and new lifts in Cody bowl. Does anyone know about the proposed slalom lift on what type of lift it will be and what it will do?


    • Henry December 26, 2021 / 8:37 am

      Ya it’s on here


  11. Myles Svec December 26, 2020 / 6:46 pm

    Does anyone know what happened to the east ridge double? It appears to have had near the same lift line as the rendezvous platter but more right on the bowl. It appears to have been installed for only six years.


  12. ne_skier March 4, 2021 / 7:29 am

    What is the Cody Bowl Return (Top left)?


  13. xlr8r April 5, 2021 / 6:30 pm

    Looking at old trail maps from the 1960s, they mention a loading ramp at Tram Tower 2 and unloading ramp at Tram Tower 3. Were these ever used prior to Thunder being built?


  14. Ben Eminger June 14, 2021 / 9:53 pm

    Why was Crystal Springs removed? It seems to have left a lift link missing from 1997-2005 until Sweetwater was installed. Today it’s purpose is served by the Sweetwater Gondola.


    • Somebody December 24, 2021 / 12:54 am

      The addition of Bridger allowed a lot more mid mountain access and rendered Crystal Springs a bit redundant. Bridger also starts right where Crystal Springs likely did, so that made it a no brainer to remove it. More skiers flocking to Jackson in the last 20 years led to the Sweetwater triple and later the gondola, since Bridger was no longer enough.


      • Henry Schrauder December 24, 2021 / 8:25 am

        Is that he mountain resort going to build anymore lifts? If so what capacity 8 person, 6 person, quad , triple,double,single?!
        What year. Jackson needs to start expansion and build more lifts.


        • skitheeast December 24, 2021 / 3:32 pm

          Jackson Hole’s GM mentioned on the Storm Skiing Podcast that she was interested in upgrading Sublette and Thunder to a detachable six and quad, respectively, and installing a Lower Faces detachable quad from Union Pass Traverse/Way Home to the top of Lower Sublette Ridge within the next five years.


        • Henry S December 24, 2021 / 3:42 pm

          Is it Thunder or Sublette that is becoming a quad?


  15. Henry December 26, 2021 / 8:42 am

    Is it thunder or Sublette that is becoming a six pack


    • pbropetech December 26, 2021 / 4:05 pm

      ‘Jackson Hole’s GM mentioned on the Storm Skiing Podcast that she was interested in upgrading Sublette and Thunder to a detachable six and quad, respectively.’ Doesn’t sound definitive to me.


      • Henry December 26, 2021 / 5:47 pm

        True that interview is that only source that is telling us that new chairlifts are going to be built


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