If you’re talking about the Platinum lift, which at the beginning was called red, “unload ramp number two” is the top. You’re probably talking about the older chair, which I don’t know
Ahh I found it. It was a mid load station above the face so you could lap the upper part of the mountain on only blues and not have to take a catwalk or the black to the bottom.
I heard from some staff here that in the next two years, they are clearing some more gladed runs. One would run between Downtown and Miners Alley/Tailings, and the other would run from the turn on Copper Toll Road to the top of Boomtown Face.
Currently, the only glade run is Sluce Box Glade which is imo the hardest run on the mountain, so hopefully these two will be a little easier to give less experienced people a better intro to tree skiing.
That’s great to hear! I was beginning to wonder when they would comb though that area (especially in summers when the fire danger was extremely high – all those dead trees and whatnot makes for great kindling)
Not to mention that would provide more runs that leads to the copper chair which in my opinion is underutilized.
You might want to switch the Tiegel and Red chair dates. Red was actually built in 1968 because it would’ve had tapered towers. The Tiegel lift was also called Red as well.
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I will agree, the old Red Riblet did not have tapered towers before it was replaced, possibly a relocation from elsewhere. Regarding the Tiegel, I can’t find anything on where it was located but it was most likely not the old Red lift due to its short length.
From what Ive seen the original red double wasn’t a tiegel. It was a homemade lift made from oil derricks in 1959, and seems to have been replaced around the mid 1970’s with the riblet double red chair (which was then replaced in 2009 by a doppelmayer triple.
As for the tiegel it might be from powder puff / the woodlands. Either that or it was one of the many lifts from the beginner base area – they had a lot of lifts in that area in the 1980s. https://files.skimap.org/lcflvybmh355hbrbu679tp8vodtr.jpg
If so, then I’m pretty sure Poma helped with a little bit of it, if you look towards the middle of the tower for a while. Those towers look nothing like a Tiegel?
From what I have been able to find, it appears that Stephen is right and the Tiegel was actually at Powder Puff. A photo of the chairlift at Powder Puff looks to be very similar with the photo of Red River’s Yellow lift you posted. Trail maps from the 1980s show a chair listed as “Yellow Chair,” could it be that the old Powder Puff double was relocated to Red River after Powder Puff was shut down? Possibly replaced by Gold in 1981?
Copper was relocated from somewhere else. It was originally installed at the unknown location in 1970-71
Yellow was built by Tiegel in 1969. It was replaced with the Gold Chair in 1979
Red (Riblet) was built in 1975 and removed in 2009. My friend has a chair from it in their backyard, and a few other chairs from it can be found across the town of Red River
The Red double before that was custom built in 1958 and removed in 1975
Green was built for the 1976/77 season and removed in 2017
Blue was built for the 1975/76 season and removed in 2010. A carpet lift runs in its place
Looks like the blue chair was removed in 2010 instead of the listed year of 2017.
https://www.taosnews.com/stories/red-rivers-blue-chair-to-come-down-snowmaking-added,12168
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Where was the second midstation on the red lift?
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If you’re talking about the Platinum lift, which at the beginning was called red, “unload ramp number two” is the top. You’re probably talking about the older chair, which I don’t know
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Ahh I found it. It was a mid load station above the face so you could lap the upper part of the mountain on only blues and not have to take a catwalk or the black to the bottom.
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I heard from some staff here that in the next two years, they are clearing some more gladed runs. One would run between Downtown and Miners Alley/Tailings, and the other would run from the turn on Copper Toll Road to the top of Boomtown Face.
Currently, the only glade run is Sluce Box Glade which is imo the hardest run on the mountain, so hopefully these two will be a little easier to give less experienced people a better intro to tree skiing.
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That’s great to hear! I was beginning to wonder when they would comb though that area (especially in summers when the fire danger was extremely high – all those dead trees and whatnot makes for great kindling)
Not to mention that would provide more runs that leads to the copper chair which in my opinion is underutilized.
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Sounds like the copper chair is finally being taken out in the summer of 2022.
Better get in those runs on the lift while you still can
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Sounds like it’ll be another doppelmayr triple (like the platinum chair that replaced the red chair in 2009)
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and now in 2024 it finally happened
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You might want to switch the Tiegel and Red chair dates. Red was actually built in 1968 because it would’ve had tapered towers. The Tiegel lift was also called Red as well.
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I will agree, the old Red Riblet did not have tapered towers before it was replaced, possibly a relocation from elsewhere. Regarding the Tiegel, I can’t find anything on where it was located but it was most likely not the old Red lift due to its short length.
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Upon further review, it looks like Copper is the relocation rather than the old Red. Copper does not show up on trail maps until 1999.
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the original Red double(Tiegel) 1958 were as the more modern Red lift(Riblet) was built in 1974 to replace the old Red
http://www.coloradoskihistory.com/areapictures/nm/redriver.html
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also to add to that Copper was installed sometime between 1992 and 1997.
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From what Ive seen the original red double wasn’t a tiegel. It was a homemade lift made from oil derricks in 1959, and seems to have been replaced around the mid 1970’s with the riblet double red chair (which was then replaced in 2009 by a doppelmayer triple.
https://www.instagram.com/p/2rHPDzAQcd/
https://www.instagram.com/p/B9E-cRilMpI/
As for the tiegel it might be from powder puff / the woodlands. Either that or it was one of the many lifts from the beginner base area – they had a lot of lifts in that area in the 1980s. https://files.skimap.org/lcflvybmh355hbrbu679tp8vodtr.jpg
All that appears to remain of the tiegel is a single tower with 2 chairs afixed which was put up in a parking lot for show for a few years, but now resides in the boneyard https://photos.fife.usercontent.google.com/pw/AP1GczOgnd9SSo9FZ2yOzjiLXXEZVUNb0u_SQECZUwMYpmgQLIofp3b4hKsD=w961-h1281-s-no?authuser=0
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Is this the Tiegel in reference?
If so, then I’m pretty sure Poma helped with a little bit of it, if you look towards the middle of the tower for a while. Those towers look nothing like a Tiegel?
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Actually the towers look pretty similar to Tiegel designs. If you look closely at the sheave assembly, it appears to resemble the old beginner chair at Homewood California. http://www.skilifts.org/old/images/resort_images/ca-homewood/double/double.htm
From what I have been able to find, it appears that Stephen is right and the Tiegel was actually at Powder Puff. A photo of the chairlift at Powder Puff looks to be very similar with the photo of Red River’s Yellow lift you posted. Trail maps from the 1980s show a chair listed as “Yellow Chair,” could it be that the old Powder Puff double was relocated to Red River after Powder Puff was shut down? Possibly replaced by Gold in 1981?
Here is the only photo I have been able to find of the double at Powder Puff, the chair design sure looks similar to the one you posted.
https://coloradoskihistory.com/images/map_powderpuff2.jpg
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Powder Puff’s lifts were a Hall double and a Heron double. Yellow was replaced by Gold
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Here’s what appears to supposedly be the original Yellow chair
The tower sorta makes me think Poma did it
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Here are the lifespans of all removed lifts
Copper – 1992-2024
Copper was relocated from somewhere else. It was originally installed at the unknown location in 1970-71
Yellow was built by Tiegel in 1969. It was replaced with the Gold Chair in 1979
Red (Riblet) was built in 1975 and removed in 2009. My friend has a chair from it in their backyard, and a few other chairs from it can be found across the town of Red River
The Red double before that was custom built in 1958 and removed in 1975
Green was built for the 1976/77 season and removed in 2017
Blue was built for the 1975/76 season and removed in 2010. A carpet lift runs in its place
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The old Copper still says Operating. Also, the dates need to be fixed on these lifts:
Red: 1958-1975 (Homemade)
Red II: 1975-2009
Yellow: 1960s-1979 (Tiegel/Borvig)
Green: 1977-2017, not 2016
Copper: 1993-2024 (relocated)
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