Tecumseh Express – Waterville Valley, NH

This lift debuted in 2022 as the first MND Group detachable lift in the United States or Canada.
The bottom terminal houses both the drive and tensioning along with a parking facility.
View riding up the middle part of the line.
Ropeway equipment designed in partnership with Bartholet.
The old lift had 25 towers while the new has only 13 which are taller and further apart.
View riding up.
Nearing the summit.
Upper lift line.
View down the line.
A support tower.
View down the line near tower 7.
View up the middle part of the line.
Lower lift line.
The alignment is very dynamic with steep and low angle sections.
Lower station with parking adjacent.
Bartholet designed drive terminal.
Contour loading.
Inside the parking barn.
Tower head.
Drive terminal equipment.
A grip in the station.
The terminal is not only long but also very wide.
John Deere evacuation engine.
Tower 1 adjacent to the bottom terminal.
View riding out of the base area.
Six passenger bubble chair.
Tower 13.
Unloading area.
Compact return terminal with exposed bullwheel.
Side view of the return station.
Downhill end of the top station.
View from tower 12.
Back of a bubble chair.
View down toward Snow’s Mountain.
Looking up from the base area.
A Bartholet chair.
Lower section of the line.
The top terminal seen from sister MND lift High Country.

23 thoughts on “Tecumseh Express – Waterville Valley, NH

  1. Philip Keeve December 30, 2022 / 3:16 pm

    Stunning machine. Engineering improvements over the years must be at least partly reasonable for halving the number of towers needed.

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    • Chairlift World January 10, 2023 / 6:58 pm

      Chair 1 @ Sandia Peak once had it in between towers 17 and 18 but is now partially removed.

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  2. liftnerd December 30, 2022 / 4:20 pm

    The drive terminal underskin looks like its counterpart on Kanc8’s top terminal. Does anyone think that this is a coincidence?

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  3. Will December 30, 2022 / 5:06 pm

    Looks great. I wonder if Yan was still around, their lifts would look like this. How comfy were the seats, Peter?

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  4. skier December 30, 2022 / 5:45 pm

    I find it funny that the tower numbers are formatted as 008, 009, 010, 011, etc. Like it’s common for them to build a ski lift with more than 99 towers so they label towers on every lift with 3 digits.

    Interesting carrier design with the top of the bail above the lowest point of the hanger arm. It looks like you ride way closer to the haul rope than you would on most detachables, especially recent Leitner Poma lifts. The bail itself is interesting too, it’s not just a single round tube with multiple bends like on most carriers we see

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  5. Muni December 30, 2022 / 6:03 pm

    The lower terminal looks slick (and vaguely reminiscent of D-Line), not a fan of the upper terminal.

    So, are these all the companies that have ever built a detach chairlift in North America?

    – Doppelmayr
    – CTEC, later Garaventa/CTEC (did Garaventa ever build their own?)
    – Poma
    – Leitner
    – Yan (RIP)
    – now MND/Bartholet

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    • Muni December 30, 2022 / 6:05 pm

      Actually, it looks like VonRoll built Gore’s high-speed triple (the Adirondack Express).

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    • liftnerd December 31, 2022 / 2:20 pm

      Samson built a high-speed double at Mont-Sainte-Anne, QC, Carlevaro & Savio built detachable bubble doubles at Beech Mountain, NC, and Mt. Snow, VT, and Mohawk built at least two detachables (for example, the world’s first HSQ – a side-seat) in Western New York.

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  6. nedakal December 30, 2022 / 7:41 pm

    Anyone else wondering why there are no automatic opening/closing rails for the bubbles, or if there are they aren’t in use? I’ve heard people complaining about wind holds on this lift and the previous one and having the downhill side bubbles open the whole time probably doesn’t help with wind resistance.

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    • Peter Landsman December 30, 2022 / 7:42 pm

      The current situation is temporary. The bubbles have cables for automatic lowering and the sensors are in place. Soon.

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  7. Tyler December 30, 2022 / 8:15 pm

    Lift looks nice, but the incident with the terminal covers being blown off a couple weeks into operations, is pretty questionable design on MND’s part, I understand it was windy, but Mont Ste Marie’s two 1989 Poma Competition High speed quads, both with pancake design non covered upper tension terminals, have never had a single one of the terminal covers blown off, and the winds at the top of Cheval Blanc can get pretty brutal. Not sure if that’s Poma over engineering, or MND under engineering, but still a rough look for MND. Heres a video of them in action https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jf6GqP43bAE&ab_channel=SlopeEdge

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    • Tyler December 30, 2022 / 8:26 pm

      To be fair, after looking at it closer, the panels on this lift are a lot larger than the ones on Cheval Blanc and Vanier express, and look a lot easier to blow off, so wasnt exactly the fairest of comparisons. My bad

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      • liftnerd December 31, 2022 / 2:23 pm

        The drives on Cheval Blanc and Vanier look somewhat like White Peaks Express’s .

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  8. newenglandskier13 December 31, 2022 / 4:22 am

    In my opinion, this is the best looking new bubble chair this year. It’s relatively unobtrusive and doesn’t stick out like a sore thumb. I like the compact return terminal.

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    • liftnerd December 31, 2022 / 2:37 pm

      Looks like that on Bethlehem Express at Bretton Woods, NH.

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      • newenglandskier13 December 31, 2022 / 4:11 pm

        Yes, I believe that was the standard return terminal for Doppelmay Unis. Yan also had similar compact terminals.

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  9. liftnerd December 31, 2022 / 2:39 pm

    Why on earth did they replace a top drive lift with a bottom drive lift!?

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  10. Bob January 1, 2023 / 12:22 pm

    Wow… Those are some of the prettiest terminals I’ve seen in a long time. I’m a BIG fan of UNI-G, and these feel like a more refined version of that.

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    • liftnerd January 1, 2023 / 12:55 pm

      The return looks like a modernized UNI, while the drive looks like a cross between a UNI-G and a D-Line.

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  11. Jackson Kelly January 3, 2023 / 9:48 am

    The return reminds me of the compact Leitner returns like Northstar Express at Kimberly.

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  12. carletongebhardt January 8, 2023 / 7:34 pm

    Rode the lift for the first time today. It’s a nice lift, but I’m not sure why the mechanism to lower the return bubbles isn’t there from the launch? The chair did stop often today, and sometime running at half speed for extended periods. The running joke on the lift was whether we would make it up without stopping. When it is running at full speed, it does get people up the hill quick. I hope they get the bugs worked out soon.

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    • pbropetech January 10, 2023 / 8:51 pm

      Peter has already commented that the current situation re: the bubbles is temporary.

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