Big Burn – Snowmass, CO

View up the line from the base.
Both terminals are completely unique in North America.
Poma “pancake” style return.
Lift line overview.
Riding up the line.
The breakover, towers 26-27.
Overhead Alpha-style drive.
This was one of the first overhead detachable drives built in North America.
Top station from below.
View down the lift line.
Looking up towards the top.
This lift has very consistent pitch along its entire length.
Lower lift line.
Bottom station from above.
Contours are driven by shafts rather than PTO belts.
Drive bullwheel and turnaround.

19 thoughts on “Big Burn – Snowmass, CO

  1. Collin September 13, 2018 / 8:56 pm

    The terminal design looks like a prototype from when Poma was developing a replacement for the Alpha-Falcon. This is the first Poma detachable to have an overhead drive in North America. Everything else from 1987 and earlier has either a vault-drive or a separate Alpha drive. Eventually they settled on the 1988 style terminal with the full glass siding.

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    • Duncan October 28, 2018 / 9:07 am

      The one that only had three built?


      • Max Hart October 28, 2018 / 6:36 pm

        Yes. White Peaks at Waterville, Angel and Sunshine Village, and Rainier at Crystal Mtn. Replaced with the Competition terminal the next year.


        • Bennett Dugas February 13, 2019 / 1:50 pm

          I believe it was called the Challenge terminal.


        • Bennett Dugas February 13, 2019 / 1:51 pm

          Edit: My other reply was referring to the 1988 terminal, not the Competition.


        • Max Hart February 13, 2019 / 4:28 pm

          The 1988 terminal did not have a name. The Challengers first appeared in 1990 and were last built in 1998.


    • Thomas Jett October 29, 2018 / 12:15 am

      Do you guys think that “Integrated Falcon” would be a good name to call this terminal?

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      • Duncan October 29, 2018 / 10:36 am



      • John February 13, 2019 / 11:42 am

        The detach mechanism from this era was called Performance, not Falcon. My prints from the old Flyer, if they referred to a model name at all besides ‘telesiege debrayable’, called it the Performant in French.

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        • Collin Parsons February 13, 2019 / 12:46 pm

          I think it was sold as “Falcon” in North America, same with the chairs which the official name was Arceaux in Europe. That’s what the lift identification page calls them both.

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        • pbropetech October 1, 2020 / 8:22 am

          Not sold as Falcon. I’m not sure where this came from, but someone back in the early days of referred to it that way (probably thinking of F-chair at Breck) and it erroneously stuck.


  2. Alex February 13, 2019 / 1:36 pm

    Does anyone know when Snowmass plans to upgrade/replace Big Burn and Coney Glade? Both of those lifts are getting very old.


  3. Kaden K December 15, 2019 / 3:20 pm

    Is it just me or does there seem to be less tension on this lift?


    • Max Hart April 3, 2020 / 9:11 am

      That’s just an Alpha Evolution, which is not the same as Big Burn.


      • skier72 April 3, 2020 / 10:53 am

        Max Hart, true, it’s not the same. I know POMA used many “Alpha Evolution” terminals in their European market. Big Burn is a truly unique lift, as it utilizes an Alpha Evolution return terminal (same design used in Europe), but has an overhead Alpha drive. POMA used overhead Alpha drives on some of there later model lifts, but none with the Alpha Evolution return terminals.

        Here’s a few examples:


    • OIRNOIR September 30, 2020 / 10:35 am

      That’s just the same model as Cony Glade, not Big Burn


  4. oirnoir October 1, 2020 / 4:11 pm

    R.I.P Burn lift.


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