The Summit at Snoqualmie, WA

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  1. carson June 19, 2017 / 4:40 pm

    does anyone know about dinosaur lift if it was partly removed?

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      • Riley January 20, 2020 / 7:15 pm

        The Dinosaur rollback incident was in 1971, but it reopened and operated until the late 1980s

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        • pbropetech February 4, 2020 / 9:11 am

          Yup. My dad was on patrol then, If I recall his stories correctly it wasn’t closed for long. I rode it quite a bit as a kid.

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  2. Carson August 11, 2018 / 2:53 pm

    Were was thunder bird at when it was being used?

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    • John November 6, 2018 / 9:29 am

      It ran from near the bottom of the current Little Thunder lift to the top of the knob above Beaver Lake and Wild Side. It was a cool old lift.

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      • Nathan Yurkanin February 20, 2021 / 8:59 pm

        half of the lift towers still exist, just imagine a line through them. the base was between dodge ridge chair and little thunder. You had to sidestep up a steep ramp to get to the lift, If was a weird setup.

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  3. Seamus Richard January 30, 2019 / 12:10 pm

    Does anybody have any pictures of the old beaver lake chairlift? Not including skilifts.org one. Thanks.

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    • John Dunn February 24, 2020 / 12:20 pm

      I have an old Snoqualmie Summit “trailmap” and brochure from sometime around 1975-77 (have to check). It has two faded-and-fuzzy photos of the Beaver Lake chair (fully loaded, no less!) and run.

      Would post them here but don’t know how — happy to do so if anyone can give me guidance on that.

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      • skier72 February 24, 2020 / 12:28 pm

        If they are digital, upload them to skimap.org. It usually takes a few hours for skimap.org to process new maps, but once it’s done, you can just copy the url to this page, and it will show up.

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      • Anonymous February 4, 2021 / 12:58 pm

        How do you even visit beaver lake. I just can’t find it >:(
        Is it closed?

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        • Erik February 4, 2021 / 1:42 pm

          The lift isn’t there anymore; according to Peter’s database above it was removed in 1997. There’s still a run with that name, though, off the top of Wildside.

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        • Anonymous February 4, 2021 / 2:34 pm

          I meant the run. It said go straight, and I went straight. I just saw a rope they put. Also, I can’t seem to find the trail on the map.

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        • Erik February 4, 2021 / 6:22 pm

          That’s true, it’s not well marked. I assume it’s the run immediately inside the rope line after you pass the abandoned building and then stick skiers’ left. Unlike most of West it’s oriented directly north and sometimes holds better snow because of it.

          https://goo.gl/maps/tH3xYmpq2fffKRbh9

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        • Nathan Yurkanin February 20, 2021 / 9:04 pm

          Ski patrol often has it all roped although much of it is skiable. On pow days there is always a lot of stashes to be found, but it is a very short run. I am old enough to have been able to ride the chair a few times, although it was rarely open. You actually rode the lift across the frozen lake and up a fairly steep pitch with some cliffs, kind of like a very short chair 17 at alpental. The whole wildside, although not hidden, remains a favorite semi forgotten area at the pass that is great with new snow.

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  4. Jason H April 3, 2019 / 6:57 pm

    Peter
    Any word on replacement of the Holiday chair at Summit Central? Also, any word on the chair in the master plan that goes to the bowls at Alpental?

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    • Peter Landsman April 6, 2019 / 5:12 am

      Now we know things are moving! The Summit is one of those mountains that could build a lift a year for the next ten and still not be totally caught up on infrastructure.

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    • Paul McKillop February 9, 2020 / 11:22 pm

      The new Holiday Detachable Quad is now operating in 2020

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      • Jeff January 20, 2021 / 9:41 pm

        It’s a fixed grip.

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  5. Rileu April 13, 2019 / 7:30 pm

    I can confirm that Easy Rider has been removed. The upper and lower stations, and the towers remain, but that’s it.

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    • Paul McKillop February 9, 2020 / 11:24 pm

      Much of Easy Rider was moved to the “back side” called Hidden Valley.

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      • Jeff January 20, 2021 / 9:42 pm

        Hidden valley is a frankenlift. Built from the two Riblets taken out by the landslide.

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  6. Skiz January 30, 2020 / 7:30 pm

    i find this the best way to understand the CRAZY layout of tSaS

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    • pbropetech February 4, 2020 / 9:18 am

      It also helps to remember that there are four separate ski areas. Not really all that crazy when you think of it that way.

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      • Donald Reif February 4, 2020 / 3:23 pm

        I think it’s up for debate whether to count it as four ski areas or two. Depends on whether you count Summit Central, East, and West as separate areas or as one individual ski hill (since they all have crossover trails connecting one another).

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        • pbropetech February 5, 2020 / 10:52 am

          I disagree. They were developed as four separate ski areas- Hyak, Ski Acres, Snoqualmie, and Alpental- and the crossovers were added later after they fell under common ownership. One can use those trails to get from one area to another, but especially between Hyak and Ski Acres there is some distance.

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        • Erik Blazing February 5, 2020 / 11:47 am

          To beginners / low intermediates, it skis like 4 separate areas- people tend to pick a base area and stay there. For more competent skiers, the choice between East, Central, and West is more a matter of what’s open and where you can find convenient parking. The crossovers are no big deal- although I totally agree it wouldn’t make sense to park at East if you’re planning to ski at West, or vice versa.

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  7. Erik Blazing February 3, 2020 / 6:56 pm

    I’ve been skiing at Snoqualmie a lot lately, and I came up with these upgrades as a thought experiment:

    – Replace Central Express with a new CLD-6 with a capacity upgrade to 3,000pph. “Central 6” could be a signature lift, introduced with a splash like Boyne has been doing recently. It’s the main lift for intermediate terrain at the entire Summit, and it’s open 13 hours/day. A sexy new, higher-capacity lift could be an effective and timely marketing strategy in a region fed up with the traffic & parking woes at Stevens & Crystal.

    – Take the existing Central Express, which is 22 years old but presumably has high hours, and move it to Pacific Crest. I’d think this would extend the chair’s life since Pac Crest is open far fewer hours- as of this year, it’s 2 full days plus 3 evenings/wk. Although it’s the same capacity-wise, I believe a detachable at Pac Crest would reduce wait times on that lift. PC is the first lift many people go to when they’re ready to move off green runs, but after teaching my kid to ski there it seems like the lift stops frequently due to mishaps on that loading carpet.

    – Move the existing Pacific Crest, loading carpet & all, to elsewhere at West. This could upgrade Wildside, be the newly re-aligned Dodge Ridge, or anchor the new infill runs between Summit West & Central depending on what the terrain there requires. Another option would be to move the old Pacific Crest to Triple60 to increase capacity there (their master plan calls for a Triple60 detachable, but I’m not totally sure why).

    – Add more beginner capacity. This could be Gallery, Reggie’s, Julie’s, or the proposed new ski school lift at central.

    – I know there are new lifts planned for Alpental, but I don’t think a detachable on International be a net benefit to the skiing there…

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    • Jeff January 21, 2021 / 6:18 pm

      Turning central express into a sixer would exceed the the terrain capacity I think. Alpine Bowl is already insane on busy weekends

      It would be nice to put the removed Easy Rider chair up between central express and triple 60 to access all that easy terrain and help relieve the load on holiday.

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    • Anonymous February 8, 2021 / 9:46 pm

      it says “This planned project will provide easier access to the chair, plus increased uphill capacity by replacing with a quad chair, and better flow on-mountain.” it didnt say a thing about detachable quad. am i missing something? i saw it from here https://summitatsnoqualmie.com/master-development-plan
      also whats the back bowls lift? international?
      last question what’s this http://skilifts.org/old/images/resort_images/wa-snoqualmie/mountaineers/mountaineers.htm
      private lift?

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      • Erik February 8, 2021 / 11:33 pm

        Their master plan “summary map” has Triple 60 labeled as a detachable quad (DC-4) https://summitatsnoqualmie.com/Documents/Summit/general/summit-mdp_map.pdf

        I don’t believe that obligates them to build it as a detachable, only that they have permission to do so from the Forest Service if they want.

        Nobody would complain about a detachable Triple 60, I just think there are other ways to spend all that money that’d give them a bigger bang for their buck.

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      • Enumclaw kid February 9, 2021 / 9:05 am

        The land in between Summit West (Snoqualmie Summit) and Summit Central (Ski Acres) used to be a rope-tow ski area owned and operated by the Mountaineers Club, in connection with a lodge they had there. I believe the tows shut down years before the lodge burned.

        https://www.mountaineers.org/blog/former-mountaineers-snoqualmie-lodge-property-to-be-sold

        They still have lodges at Stevens and Baker, and one with their own tows near Stampede Pass (Meany Lodge).

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    • Anonymous February 22, 2021 / 10:25 am

      They should move Pac Crest into the new realigned dodge ridge, and take dodge ridge to make Baby/Northwest

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  8. Collin Parsons February 10, 2020 / 3:14 am

    From looking at that map, I think they should take the old Swift Current lift from Big Sky and reinstall it as a Slide Brook type lift between Alpental and the rest of the resort. Then it could all be connected.

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    • Che Guevara February 10, 2020 / 9:30 am

      They’d have to potentially rope evacuate skiers onto an interstate freeway in that scenario

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      • Donald Reif February 10, 2020 / 12:52 pm

        A gondola might be more practical, as well as maybe a wildlife crossing bridge for it to cross I-90 with so that I-90 wouldn’t have to be closed during rope evacs.

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    • Erik Blazing February 11, 2020 / 12:14 pm

      I’m not confident they could get permission to cross 7 lanes of interstate highway with a chairlift. Is there any lift anywhere that does that? I know Loveland but I-70 is in a tunnel at that point.

      I also don’t think the lift would get many riders. People who ski at Alpental for the steeps generally aren’t very interested in the other areas. It would probably only run on weekends and be more of a novelty than anything.

      If they were looking for a novelty lift, a low-capacity top-to-bottom tram at Alpental would generate interest and could provide some summer sightseeing revenue. All in all, though, I’d rather see them invest in other needed updates from their master plan.

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      • 𝖙𝖍𝖊 𝖉𝖆𝖗𝖐 𝖝 𝖍𝖔𝖗𝖓𝖊𝖙 March 1, 2021 / 8:19 pm

        Cascade does that. Not a highway, though. They would need a gondola. I don’t think they will want to do that, because no one will really use the gondola. First, Alpental is only open for unlimited pass holders in the weekends. If you want to ski there, then park there. No one would want to park at west, and then take the gondola. Also, people in Alpental don’t want to go to west. They want hard terrain, and West has the exact opposite of what they want. And obviously, The Summit will have to spend a massive amount of money to build the gondola when like, no one really wants to go on it.

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  9. Brandon February 21, 2020 / 1:33 pm

    Central 6, Pacific Crest to re-use HS Quad and PC to Dodge Ridge Re-Alignment are all easy slam dunks. Triple 60 should be replace with Fixed Grip Quad as you get the same capacity which is only needed on busy weekends for 2mm less in cost. Triple 60 would then best be re-used for the Sessel replacement & extension at Alpental. This would actually create an intermediate zone that removes the often non-existent Cascade traverse on the lower mountain. It would also take a fair amount of line pressure off Armstrong on busy weekends while ski school is running who are mainly accessing Lower International. All in 2 new lifts and 3 existing lift moves would dramatically improve ski flow and line times on weekends.

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  10. Anonymous February 4, 2021 / 10:56 am

    They should upgrade Triple 60. In the weekends, Central express and Silver Fir get too crowded. Triple 60 is not as much. But it takes a while to get up.

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  11. Anonymous February 5, 2021 / 1:18 pm


    If you look closely at Alpental, They had some sort of International Chairlift, but it’s a double.
    Also they can build Baby and Northwest with leftover Riblets from Alpine Bowl (if they aren’t used for something else).

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    • pbropetech February 9, 2021 / 10:21 am

      The lift you’re referring to was a platter serving the blue section of Lower Internationale. It rarely ran and was removed in the 90s.

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    • Nathan Yurkanin February 20, 2021 / 9:12 pm

      forget replacing anything, just operate all the lifts they currently have that sit closed 90% of the time and the area would have much shorter lines. BTW don’t touch wildside, it doesn’t need any more attention brought to that little nugget of heaven that most people disregard.

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    • Nathan Yurkanin February 20, 2021 / 9:16 pm

      Great pics of that old lift. I still can’t believe they took it out. To my knowledge it was the first true ski lift in WA. I still remember when power would go down and they would start up the v8 gas engine coupled to the original automotive transmission to keep it running.

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  12. Chris February 10, 2021 / 11:57 pm

    Well, it’s German for “three”, and they seem to have a faux-German theme..

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  13. Anonymous February 21, 2021 / 8:18 pm

    That is true, because it had eins, zwei, and drei

    During its first year of business, Alpental looked quite different. It only had chairs 1, 2 and 3 (then called eins, zwei and drei lift), 3 rope tows on St. Bernard, and 2 rope tows across the road at the base of Snoqualmie Mtn. Only the Alpental Lodge existed (called the “Unterhaus”), not the Denny Lodge. Facilities available included “ice skating”. It even seems that the fork in Alpental road across from the Alpenrose condos was open. The right fork (now the main road) went to the overnight lot, and lot 1, and dead ended. The left fork went past the lodge to provide access to lot 2, the last lot at the time.

    The difficulties of the slopes were marked by the standard at the time: SQUARE = Easy TRIANGLE = More Difficult CIRCLE = Most Difficult. The 5 marked runs were “Edelweiss – Triangle”, “Eisfallen – Triangle”, “Internationale – Circle”, “Lower Internationale – Triangle” and “Meister – Triangle” (which included present day Debbie’s Gold). It was said that “other runs north of the summit house are planned”, indicating the backcountry potential, and that “some can be skied at present by self-sufficient experts”.
    from: http://www.alpental.com/history_-_alpental.htm

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  14. pbropetech February 22, 2021 / 1:20 pm

    You’re correct- what’s now called Armstrong Express was originally chair 1, Edelweiss is chair 2, and Sessel is chair 3 (St Bernard is 4, if you’re following along). Those are the German words for the numbers. I’m not seeing what your link is about though.

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  15. 𝖙𝖍𝖊 𝖉𝖆𝖗𝖐 𝖝 𝖍𝖔𝖗𝖓𝖊𝖙 March 2, 2021 / 5:46 pm

    To reduce the lines at Central they can make a new chair or platter that only goes to the park. That way the people who ski park can ski there. Also they should keep Triple 60’s bottom terminal a little lower so people can easily access it and more people will use it. If they make it a DC-4, that will attract more people, too. Also, if they make mountaineers a blue, which they should because it’s like the easiest black and more people who want to ski blues move from central to triple 60. It can be like outback. For silver fir they should split it in two. one to get up, another for the blacks. That way you don’t have to ski all the way down where there is a huge line.

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    • Erik March 2, 2021 / 6:37 pm

      I like the idea of a dedicated lift just for the park, but I’m not sure there’s enough room at the top for another lift terminal. I’d rather see them upgrade Central Express to a 6 person detachable to add capacity. Although it would be more expensive up front, it’d be cheaper to operate & maintain a single lift than building a second lift on the same alignment. Also, with the way they run the place, the second lift would probably be closed most of the time anyway (just like Gallery, Reggie’s, Easy Street, Dodge Ridge, Julie’s…)

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      • 𝖙𝖍𝖊 𝖉𝖆𝖗𝖐 𝖝 𝖍𝖔𝖗𝖓𝖊𝖙 March 3, 2021 / 9:07 am

        That is true, so they will probably have to make it High Speed Six

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    • Erik March 2, 2021 / 6:20 pm

      Right now it’s a green circle over at East, but looks like that’s their placeholder name for a potential infill lift between East and Silver Fir. I’m skeptical that’ll ever happen. They should start actually utilizing the beginner terrain they already have before building more of it.

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    • 𝖙𝖍𝖊 𝖉𝖆𝖗𝖐 𝖝 𝖍𝖔𝖗𝖓𝖊𝖙 March 3, 2021 / 9:09 am

      I’ve heard that they are going to build a chair, but that was a lift attendant. It’s a nice run with a lot of pow and jumps.

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