71 thoughts on “Colorado

  1. Jeff Lynne July 27, 2017 / 6:09 pm

    Just curious, do you know where the lift at Silverton Mountain came from?


    • Peter Landsman July 27, 2017 / 6:13 pm

      Chair 15 at Mammoth, I believe. I know I still need to add Silverton to the database along with Crested Butte, Monarch, Monarch Crest and Royal Gorge.


      • AllertorSiren05 November 22, 2017 / 5:50 pm

        You’ll enjoy Crested Butte, I’ve been there a couple times before. They have this cool old Riblet Center Pole Double called Teocalli too that still regularly runs.

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        • Evan November 26, 2018 / 3:28 pm

          Hey, Allertorsiren05 are you on ARS?

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      • trj820 November 25, 2017 / 1:36 am

        Chair 15? Boy, that’s quite the change in pitch.


      • Maxwell Uguccioni March 12, 2019 / 10:17 pm

        Can’t be chair 15 because chair 15 had non-bullwheel loading just like 12, 13, and 14.


        • pbropetech October 21, 2021 / 10:18 pm

          The lift’s original configuration means very little. We took a remote-drive non-bullwheel-loading bottom drive lift and turned it into a fixed top drive bullwheel unloading lift. I don’t know much about Mammoth’s original lifts, or even their new ones, but once a lift is removed and re-engineered you can build what you want with it.

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    • Cameron Halmrast July 27, 2017 / 6:15 pm

      It came from Mammoth. It’s to my belief that he got the lift for free too since he was an employee there for a number of years before starting up Silverton.


  2. Jonathan February 10, 2018 / 8:50 am

    I heard that he found it in the dump from the newspaper, and then installed it by hand


  3. Collin March 2, 2018 / 12:02 pm

    I see you added Crested Butte, so you’re only 2 away from finishing Colorado. One small error I noticed in the Crested Butte page is that the Red Lady Express actually replaced a Poma triple which became East River, till it was replaced with another high speed quad. The page for that lift says it replaced a Riblet double.


  4. Brady R. January 10, 2019 / 3:02 pm

    The new American Flyer lift opened today!


  5. James January 15, 2019 / 2:55 pm

    Cranor ski area poma?


    • Peter Landsman January 15, 2019 / 3:07 pm

      I went by there when I skied Crested Butte and it was closed with no trespassing signs everywhere. Also need to get Silverton still.


    • Peter Landsman February 2, 2019 / 9:31 pm

      I was able to ski Cranor today. Just two Colorado lift left to get…the Lake City Poma and Silverton double chair.


  6. Randy Matheson February 2, 2019 / 10:27 pm

    Don’t forget Chapman Hill in Durango.


  7. Scott Lawrence February 10, 2019 / 12:55 pm

    Does anyone know why Rendezvous and Sierra are Yan lifts with Doppymyer chairs?


    • Michael February 10, 2019 / 9:11 pm

      Both R & S lifts have not only Doppelmayr chairs but also sheave assemblies. The 82 & 83 Yans had the S-2 Sheave assemblies that were succeptible to sheave flange failure. The chairs with the plastic seats ( that we named “The flying couches”) were very comefortable but thought to be unsafe after the Teller lift accident at Keystone- thus the chairs were also replaced.


      • V3 April 18, 2019 / 8:09 pm

        R & S had the all steel yan chairs when I first started at Copper, those chairs went to loveland for chair 2 when the D-CTEC chairs replaced them in 2006 so the new chairs must be the 3rd set on the lifts.


  8. Chase September 4, 2019 / 8:23 am

    I’d be curious to hear the details on old Geneva Basin’s chairs if anyone has the info.


    • pbropetech December 11, 2019 / 11:54 am

      They had a ‘high-speed’ Pomalift, which was most likely like the old H-90 at Loveland or similar to our old Storm King. There was a Heron centre-pole double, much like old chairs 1, 2, 3, and 4 at Loveland aside from the chairs. The last owners were in the process of building a Borvig triple but never completed it due to financial constraints. More info at


  9. Randy September 7, 2019 / 3:55 pm

    Once again a lost area looks to reopen only to disappear back into darkness. I’m guessing they gave up on Stagecoach?


  10. jcpierce05 September 14, 2019 / 2:45 pm

    Does any one know what happened to the lift at Heritage Square in Golden? It’s a hall double.


    • Ramcharger_8 December 17, 2019 / 9:51 am

      most of heritage square shut down and they took out the alpine slide and the lift. I dont know what they did with the lift i just know that it isnt there anymore


  11. skier72 January 22, 2020 / 10:22 pm

    Anyone know where the Poma triple at Pike’s Peak went? It was only a few years old when removed.


    • Snow Boys March 4, 2020 / 2:29 pm

      It went to Franz’s at whistler.


      • Chairlift World March 25, 2023 / 2:48 pm

        It also currently has Omega chairs and the drive terminal was converted from bottom to top. Also has some Doppelmayr towers, sheaves, and grips.


        • pbropetech March 25, 2023 / 4:11 pm

          Unless I missed something, it does not have any Doppelmayr grips. They wouldn’t fit in Poma chair heads in any case. It once had first-generation Arceaux carriers like Gold Link at the Butte or my L-lift, but at some point WB replaced them with the current Omega ones. Rob would know more.


        • Chairlift World March 25, 2023 / 4:24 pm

          Heh, never knew that. Although the grips did look oddly suspicious…

          Gold Link at the Butte has a pretty nice drive motor sound. Lumberjack with the unique chairs, Old Poma triples in Colorado were quite unusual.


  12. axewolfe March 4, 2020 / 1:39 pm

    That triple was moved to Whistler as the peak chair and was relocated to what is now the Franz’s triple


  13. Carson April 28, 2020 / 8:28 pm

    Does anyone know what happens to the broadmoor ski area


  14. Myles Svec December 27, 2020 / 3:36 pm

    Here’s my prediction for 2022 lift projects in Colorado.



    Replace Game Creek with a 3,200 pph 6 pack. This lift has some long lines and its old built in 1985.

    Replace Orient Express with a 2,800 pph high speed quad or a HSS. Orient is also getting old also being a CLD-260

    Beaver Creek:

    Replace Arrowhead with a new HSQ at the same capacity. This lift needs to be replaced due to age.



    Put in Pioneer Express which would be as 1,200 pph HSQ. Trails for pioneer are being cut this summer but no lift yet. It appears the lift line is also being cut so I would not be surprised to see a Pioneer express in 2022.

    I can’t think of anything else for Ikon or Epic in Colorado so what do you guys think of what else will be put in?


    • Donald Reif December 27, 2020 / 6:25 pm

      I could see Breck doing a high speed quad upgrade to one of their Riblets before the decade is over (likely Lift 5 or C).


      • Myles Svec December 27, 2020 / 6:29 pm

        Also I could see Copper upgrade and extend Alpine and upgrade Lumberjack to a HSQ


        • pbropetech February 22, 2021 / 1:16 pm

          No and maybe. I have not heard of any plans to replace A-lift; we’re doing a drive and control upgrade this summer so that’ll probably put the lie to my statement. As for L, it’s been planned for a couple years but no word on when. I’m trying to throw money at it because historically that’s how lifts get replaced here :)


        • Munier Salem February 28, 2021 / 9:05 pm

          Page 12 of the 2011 master plan says “Upgrade the Alpine Lift to a detachable lift and extend the top terminal up-mountain.” Later on they describe it as the longest ride on the mountain (by time) and over their acceptable limit of 10 minutes. That report was drafted 9 years ago, so granted things change.


        • pbropetech May 9, 2021 / 1:03 pm

          A-lift stops like five times a season, so the long ride time isn’t bad. Plus everyone who rides it isn’t looking for a high-speed lift. Yes, it’s on the master plan, but it’ll be a while until it happens and only because it’s at the end of its lifespan and not for any other reason.


    • skitheeast December 27, 2020 / 8:05 pm

      I doubt Vail gets two lifts when there is more needed elsewhere in the empire. Game Creek really needs to become a six-pack, and it has been rumored/planned for years, so perhaps 2022 will be the year it gets done. I also doubt Beaver Creek gets anything in 2022 after two lifts in McCoy Park in 2021. Vail is giving Colorado is five new lifts in 2021 (Peru 2.0 at Keystone, infill at Breck, McCoy I and II at Beaver Creek, Peachtree at Crested Butte), and I feel like that is a lot. Perhaps three is a better number for the state. Given that as the target number, I would guess Bergman Bowl at Keystone, Game Creek at Vail, and something at Crested Butte (their master plan has a lot of fun lifts to choose from).

      It is too soon to judge for Alterra. If they go the Vail route and simply execute all of their lift projects from last year during 2021, then Pioneer at Steamboat would make a lot of sense. Winter Park could also get something in their endless pursuit to have it compete against Vail’s Summit County titans.


    • Myles Svec January 3, 2021 / 8:09 pm

      Update: Pioneer won’t be built until everything else on the master plan is done.


    • Trail Master January 26, 2021 / 2:39 pm

      I could see Winter Park updating Pioneer Express to a Speedy Six in the following 1-2 years


      • Unknown Skier January 27, 2021 / 11:03 am

        What do you mean by a “Speedy Six?”


  15. Chris December 28, 2020 / 1:42 am

    Does anyone still build super high capacity quads? I though they have been pretty much replaced by six packs entirely for new builds.


    • Donald Reif December 28, 2020 / 8:24 am

      I think the shifts have been to reduce misloads.


  16. Myles Svec January 15, 2021 / 12:55 pm

    I was looking on Google earth and one of the lifts at Stagecoach is still standing. Not sure which lift it is or if the land is opened to the public but it is there.


    • Myles Svec January 15, 2021 / 1:00 pm

      Coordinates of bottom bull wheel are 40°15’08’’N 106°51’25’’W


    • Utah Powder Skier January 15, 2021 / 1:03 pm

      Actually, 2 out of their 3 lifts are still standing. The main lift was removed a while ago, probably when the area first closed.


      • gettheyoyo April 24, 2022 / 5:55 pm

        The main lift went to Granby Ranch then to Winter park as the old timberline chair


  17. Anonymous February 22, 2021 / 12:44 pm

    Does Lee’s Ski Hill count as a ski resort? I know it has like one rope tow but still.


    • Myles Svec February 22, 2021 / 2:10 pm

      I don’t think it does here because Peter dosent count rope tows as lifts. Supposedly Lee’s ski hill is the smallest ski area in USA.


  18. Myles Svec April 20, 2021 / 11:44 am

    Peter, you should get stagecoach because some of the lifts are still standing there.


  19. Myles Svec April 26, 2021 / 8:15 am

    I am surprised there aren’t more ski areas in Northwest Colorado. There are plenty of good mountains there and good amounts of snow. Could it be lack of visitation behind not many resorts being there?


  20. ThisSnowyKid October 21, 2021 / 5:45 am

    I went to Colorado in late June 2018 and would’ve definitely tried to ski the limited patches of snow left but I made the mistake of leaving my skis in NH, either this winter or the next I’ll get a chance to go out West


  21. Ethan January 26, 2022 / 2:54 pm

    When will he get the pics of the new lifts at beaver creek


      • Nolan March 20, 2023 / 8:04 pm

        Hey Peter, could you maybe get some pictures of the two sled tows at the Fraser tubing hill near Winter Park?


        • ShangRei Garrett March 20, 2023 / 8:26 pm

          Pretty sure he doesn’t count tows like that. That’s why there’s no rope tows in the whole database. Has to be a platter or bigger, and although it’s been a while since I’ve been there, my assumption is that they’re more of modified rope tows than anything.


  22. Ethan January 27, 2022 / 6:32 pm

    Yay I’m exited for that


  23. Joshua Redman July 22, 2022 / 8:10 pm

    I know this is off-topic,but in Westcliffe,Colorado there is a camp called Sky Ranch Horn Creek. There is a year-round tubing hill there. It used to be accessed by a chairlift or Poma lift. It sits dismantled and mostly abandoned. I don’t have a photo but it looked cool.


    • Randy September 24, 2022 / 1:02 pm

      Granby Ranch added safety bars to its 2 chairlifts that didn’t have them before…per their Facebook page.


  24. Nolan March 20, 2023 / 7:59 am

    I wonder if they are ever planning to open up Cuchara? It looked like it could get a lot of business from the locals.


    • RandyM March 20, 2023 / 12:21 pm

      They ran a ski sled up the mountain this pass weekend for skiers to get up the slopes and plan to do it again next weekend if conditions permit. Latest on chair 4 opening.


      • Nolan March 20, 2023 / 8:01 pm

        It is nice to see that they are revamping the lifts to make them more enjoyable and safer for future guests.


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