News Roundup: Coming Back

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  1. Aidan Reilly's avatar Aidan Reilly September 8, 2023 / 10:07 pm

    Really not seeing the connection or the appeal for the name “wild spur express”. Pioneer was fine as is. They say “new lift, new name” but that clearly didn’t happen with Sunnyside back in 2019.

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    • Donald Reif's avatar Donald Reif September 9, 2023 / 8:19 am

      Neither do I. It made sense that when the Summit Express was replaced, that six pack was named Super Gauge, for a number of reasons:

      1. The new name nicely fit in with the railroad theme of Mary Jane’s chairlifts and trails. (“Super Gauge” because of it being a high speed six pack while the other lifts in the pod are Heron-Poma doubles)

      2. When the original lift was built in 1985, it made sense to call it the Summit Express because at the time, the summit of Mary Jane was the highest point on the mountain. That was no longer the case once Parsenn Bowl opened in 1992.

      But here, I don’t see the merits. The ‘Pioneer Express’ name fits nicely into a trail pod with trail names like Stagecoach, Sundance, and Wagon Train.

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    • Ryan Murphy's avatar Ryan Murphy September 9, 2023 / 12:30 pm

      I’d give them credit for moving from a generic lift name to a more unique one, but Winter Park is still one of the worst offenders for common names.

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    • Nolan's avatar Nolan September 9, 2023 / 6:23 pm

      I guess I kind of like the name. Like you said, they could have also gone with something more true to the area like “Dynamo Express” or even something simple like “Gambler Express” named after the run.

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  2. Ryan's avatar Ryan September 8, 2023 / 11:18 pm

    NO!! Leave Timberline alone at Powder Mtn!

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    • buzz's avatar buzz September 9, 2023 / 6:28 am

      Pow Mow peaked 99-06. Every change since has been for the worst.

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  3. Ryan's avatar Ryan September 8, 2023 / 11:23 pm

    Happy to hear Midway is to be reactivated at WP. Better than sitting there doing nothing or to be scrapped.

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  4. TPAkyle's avatar TPAkyle September 10, 2023 / 9:43 am

    Anyone know what to expect from VR’s September 28 2024 lift announcement?

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    • Anthony's avatar Anthony September 10, 2023 / 12:09 pm

      I don’t think it’s inherent that they announce anything next week (they often wait until December), but a few that are on the radar and some ideas:

      – Jersey Cream at Whistler (previously announced)
      – Eagle and Silverlode at Park City (previously attempted), now that PCMR has changed up its parking program, which might help with approvals
      – Grand Summit Express at Mt. Snow (replacement of a Yan/Poma hybrid)
      – 5, A, C, or E at Breckenridge (although it seems unlikely as Breck has had a couple successive summers of lift upgrades)
      – Grace Lakes or Northern Exposure at Stevens Pass have MDP approval and there’s a clear need for more terrain in the PNW, though Vail seems completely disinterested in terrain expansion at its West Coast resorts.
      – Boulder at Heavenly to encourage more use of that entry portal.
      – I still think it would be worthwhile to replace 1 and 2 at Kirkwood with a single HSQ, though again, Vail seems wildly disinterested in the West Coast.

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      • Donald Reif's avatar Donald Reif September 11, 2023 / 8:22 am

        Breck replaced Lift 5 this year. Though I do think you got a point that Breck might wait a year or two after having just built three new high speed quads in as many ski seasons (Freedom SuperChair in 2021, Rip’s Ride in 2022, Five SuperChair this year) before they start on replacing Lift 6 or the Peak 9 Riblet lifts.

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      • RandyM's avatar RandyM September 11, 2023 / 5:38 pm

        I can see Breck build the approved beginner area at the top of Rip’s next. Think a triple chair and a few carpets were the plan if I recall.

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      • skitheeast's avatar skitheeast September 12, 2023 / 9:13 am

        I don’t think Park City is going to get anything that will require city approvals until Vail has assurances they won’t be embarrassed again, as it is quite expensive to go through the whole process and be rejected at the last minute. The new Canyons gondola is a 2024 candidate, although 2025 may be a more realistic timeline.

        The 2 proposed lifts above Flat Iron will likely be built soon in The Colony as well. At a bare minimum, the north Pinecone Ridge one will be needed to give all new homesites ski-in access.

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