News Roundup: Record Investment


24 thoughts on “News Roundup: Record Investment

  1. Muni May 12, 2023 / 6:03 pm

    A “Valdez” ski area would surely require a double-black run named “Exxon” :)

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  2. Aussierob May 12, 2023 / 6:03 pm

    Last loads of lift parts should be arriving in Whistler today.


    • Peter Landsman May 12, 2023 / 6:04 pm

      Did the six pack come up too or is that staying in Utah for now?


      • Aussierob May 12, 2023 / 6:06 pm

        No. Coming next year. No room here for it during the winter.


        • Alex May 13, 2023 / 5:21 pm

          Does anyone know the projected PPH for the new Fitzsimmons 8?


        • ShangRei Garrett May 13, 2023 / 6:28 pm

          Originally, the equipment was supposed to increase the capacity of Silverlode at PCMR by 20%. If the database is correct and the current capacity of Silverlode is 3000 pph, then the 8-pack should be 3600 pph.


      • Rylan May 12, 2023 / 6:59 pm

        Is the 8 pack the one that was supposed to go in park city or just a new one?


        • ShangRei Garrett May 12, 2023 / 8:00 pm

          The one from PCMR


        • Jack May 14, 2023 / 9:57 pm

          Why did it never get installed at PCMR?


        • Aussierob May 15, 2023 / 8:52 am

          Short answer is the town of Park City wouldn’t approve it.


  3. Myles May 12, 2023 / 7:10 pm

    3 miles long for a chairlift in the Valdez project would make it the longest chairlift in North America if it weren’t a gondola or tram. I’m guessing they will go with a gondola or a tram if it’s going to be 3 miles long.


    • ShangRei Garrett May 12, 2023 / 7:59 pm

      I think I read somewhere that it is supposed to be a chondola.

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      • Myles May 13, 2023 / 11:04 am

        I wonder where they will get enough money to build that it will probably cost more than $40 million to make and build.


  4. Anthony May 13, 2023 / 11:56 am

    I think it’s important to keep in mind that with the growing U.S. population, per capita skier visits are still down 20% from the late 1970s.

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  5. julestheshiba May 13, 2023 / 12:31 pm

    why are they replacing the teardrop chairs with the awful early 90s EJ chairs, horrible idea in my opinon


    • vons3 May 13, 2023 / 12:44 pm

      The EJ chairs have footrests, are supported by Doppelmayr and already made to fit the yan hybrid terminals, unfortunately the Yan chairs have no support so spares are non existent and at this age I am sure they are finding indications on structural parts.

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      • Utah Powder Skier May 13, 2023 / 3:41 pm

        I find it hard to believe considering that Sun Valley had about 30+ teardrop chairs from the `1990s in their boneyard as of a couple years ago. Seems unlikely that all 30+ of those chairs were condemned. If there was a problem with the Yan chairs themselves I would think Sun Valley would have replaced the chairs in the 90s when they replaced the older generation chairs on all their other Yan detachables.


        • vons3 May 13, 2023 / 5:54 pm

          Dude! it doesn’t matter how many spares they have its a limited supply, Sun Valley management wanted to add footrests to the lifts and the EJ chairs already have footrests, they can get new parts from Doppelmayr, and they have an opportunity to use an existing stock of chairs they already own to upgrade the lifts. Yes the teardrop chairs are neat but its not practical for an operator to keep obsolete or “unique” equipment just because. Sun Valley is not going to pay to manufacture new restraint bars with footrests for the Yan chairs when they can use what they already own. As to why they didn’t upgrade back in 97 well they rebuilt most of 7 lifts and I am sure costs at the time became an issue; it’s almost 30 years later the situation is different now.
          Sorry for my tart reply it has been a day!


        • pbropetech May 16, 2023 / 9:31 pm

          UPS- There are and have been problems with Yan carriers, much like any other manufacturer. Many of them take time to manifest and may not have been apparent in the 90s. As Vons3 says, they are most likely finding them now, as many of us are. Most of ours are repairable but not all, and eventually the existing stock of spares is used up. We’ve had to trade consumables for spares from a couple neighbouring ski areas, for example. The teardrop carriers are comparatively rare so I imagine SV has used most of their spares. Vons also makes a good point that EJ carriers are fully supported- we’ve been able to get new parts for our ’94 with no problems.

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  6. Pockets May 15, 2023 / 7:16 am

    We know that Sugarbush is planning on replace Heaven’s Gate with a fixed quad, wonder about North Ridge though. Would they just replace it with a new detach quad or upgrade it to a 6-pack?


    • SPECIAL May 15, 2023 / 10:55 am

      Do they really need a 6 at North Ridge? Not likely


    • Mike B May 15, 2023 / 12:42 pm

      Unless there is a major documented wind issue, I can’t imagine it’s worth investing the extra $$ in a 6-pack for any lift at Mt Ellen given its 100-day season and lesser crowds throughout the winter.


      • carletongebhardt May 16, 2023 / 4:03 pm

        Unless in the long term they want to try to draw more skiers over to Mount Ellen…


        • Mike B May 17, 2023 / 3:17 pm

          I’m sure they’d like to as a general rule, but not at the expense of Lincoln Peak where the vast majority of their investments live – Claybrook, Rice Brook, Farmhouse/Schoolhouse and future phases to come. The goal will almost certainly be to increase total skier visits until they feel that LP is at its comfortable carrying capacity, at which point perhaps they aspire to drive a higher share of visits to ME, potentially including splashy ideas like the Upper Inverness pod. But that’s got to be at least 10 years away given other investment needs higher in the queue like snowmaking infrastructure at both mountains, additional beds/critical mass at LP Village and the aforementioned lift replacement for NR and HG.


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