News Roundup: Mineral Basin

22 thoughts on “News Roundup: Mineral Basin

  1. Montana Powder Skier's avatar Ski the Cold Smoke October 13, 2023 / 4:58 pm

    Finally!!!

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  2. Collin Parsons's avatar Collin Parsons October 13, 2023 / 6:38 pm

    As Powdr applies for permits to replace lifts that are 27 and 24 years old, we still continue to get shortchanged at Killington. No permit applications or anything when it comes to replacing Superstar. Just lip service.

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    • Anthony's avatar Anthony October 13, 2023 / 8:30 pm

      Powdr has a massive backlog of 30-year-old lifts that are due or overdue for replacement:

      – Superstar at Killington
      – OBX and NWX at Bachelor
      – Timberline at Copper

      They’re going to have to invest a good amount of cash in new lifts over the next few years.

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      • Anthony's avatar Anthony October 13, 2023 / 8:33 pm

        And Accelerator at Boreal!

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      • Joe Blake's avatar Joe Blake October 13, 2023 / 9:14 pm

        Timberline is next summer.

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  3. haydenklev5's avatar haydenklev5 October 13, 2023 / 7:48 pm

    Snowbirds proposal for gadzoom is for a chair barn too. Maybe they’ll make it a bubble

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  4. Skier's avatar Skier October 13, 2023 / 10:58 pm

    It looks like Brighton wants to add lights for night skiing in the Milly area. That would be a cool addition.

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    • D F's avatar D F October 14, 2023 / 8:01 pm

      I love how Brighton treats their night skiing. Meanwhile, V.R. has drastically cut back Keystone’s hours and days they offer night skiing in recent years.

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      • Helamans Warrior's avatar Helamans Warrior October 14, 2023 / 10:03 pm

        They totally did away with park city’s night skiing when they bought it.

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        • Anders's avatar Anders October 14, 2023 / 10:11 pm

          That move really annoyed me. You already have the infrastructure in place, why would you do that? Probably because like 90% of the people visiting the resort have some sort of Epic pass product and night skiing might not be covered idk. Or they’re just lazy. Or maybe it loses money so they’re pressured by their shareholders to do away with it. I love PCMR and am in support of Quicksilver and all of the new upgrades Vail has brought to the table, but this just really upsets me.

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  5. Mark from Europe's avatar Mark from Europe October 14, 2023 / 6:58 am

    Hi from Europe, I just made an account so i could comment on the Snowbird proposals.

    I’ve read somewhere that the Gadzoom lift is over 6000 feet long?
    if thats true, it should be a 10-person gondola.
    I think its too long for even a six-chair bubble.

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    • pbropetech's avatar pbropetech October 14, 2023 / 10:07 am

      I respectfully disagree.

      6000′ is a six-minute ride. Most skiers don’t want to kick off their gear for a ride that short. I know that may not be the case in Europe- and as a mechanic I would love to work on some of the state-of-the-art fleets over there- but that’s the typical attitude here.

      For context, at Copper we have seven detachable lifts. B is an 8-minute ride, E is 3, F is 6, H and I are 5, K is 4, and O-1 is 10-11. O-1 is the only one where people might complain about the ride time, but it *is* a bubble at least.

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      • Donald Reif's avatar Donald Reif October 14, 2023 / 2:29 pm

        It’s that attitude that’s at least partly a reason why Snowbasin’s addition of DeMoisey to the Strawberry region this year to provide a chairlift alternative to the gondola already serving that region is a big improvement.

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        • vons3's avatar vons3 October 14, 2023 / 6:28 pm

          I like the rule of 8, if the ride gets to be over 8 min ride time to look at a detachable lift or if already a high speed lift look at a bubble if its getting 8+ minute ride. Honestly, I think gondolas should be in areas were they only distribute riders to other lifts terrain pods not for lapping terrain

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    • Joe Blake's avatar Joe Blake October 14, 2023 / 12:10 pm

      Seconding my brother here. ~ 6000′ lifts are super common here, and not an issue at all. I’ve lapped Gadzoom a few days and honestly didn’t realise it was “long”. It’s in a nice spot, out of the wind, and also staying in the elements helps us all regulate body temps. Even bubbles are unnecessary.

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    • Donald Reif's avatar Donald Reif October 14, 2023 / 2:19 pm

      Gadzoom is a lapping lift. It’s not a lift line suitable to a gondola.

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  6. kiroro236's avatar kiroro236 October 15, 2023 / 1:05 pm

    Any guesses where that Austrian pulse gondola is going to in Canada?

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  7. Doug's avatar Doug October 16, 2023 / 12:37 pm

    Will the new Mineral Basin Express extend downwards to support the Mary Ellen expansion, or is that idea for sure dead?

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    • Helamans Warrior's avatar Helamans Warrior October 16, 2023 / 11:50 pm

      Don’t know if it’s officially dead but it seems it’s been put on the back burner. They had the approval back in 2016, contingent on 2 years of water monitoring before any construction would start, but we really haven’t year anything since then.

      I just don’t know if it makes sense financially given that the resort already maxes out its current parking and canyon capacity. I don’t think something like this would make sense unless Snowbird could handle the additional demand with the new terrain, which I don’t think they can with the current throughput of LCC. Maybe once some of these new LCC traffic features and increased bus frequency are implemented then they would consider it, but I just don’t see it being worthwhile.

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  8. Mark from europe's avatar Mark from europe October 16, 2023 / 1:25 pm

    I understand the argument of after lapping a run, you dont want to take your skis off. But outside the length of the lift, it could help young kids going up.

    The same thing could be said about Sunnyside at Alta. That lift would have been great as a chondola.

    You obviously have the other side of the topic. In europe (Zillertal Arena for example), fixed grips get replaced by gondolas on the mountain that are less than 4000 feet long. Thats money-burning right there!

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    • East-West Ottawan's avatar OttawaSkier October 16, 2023 / 1:40 pm

      I wouldn’t describe the Gadzoom terrain as being for young children. Expert skiers are less likely to want high speed lifts, at least on this side of the pond.

      I believe that a chondola was penciled in for Sunnyside at one point. Don’t when it changed, but someone probably knows.

      Europe lifts are money-burning indeed!

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      • Donald Reif's avatar Donald Reif October 17, 2023 / 7:44 pm

        I believe the decision to make Sunnyside a six pack instead of a chondola happened after Alta decided to remove Cecret and its learning area in favor of an extended Supreme.

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