News Roundup: Last Chance

17 thoughts on “News Roundup: Last Chance

  1. MarzNC August 27, 2021 / 4:19 pm

    The J-bar only served the big terrain park. It wasn’t used at all last winter. Massanutten changed this around in 2020-21 and put bigger features on the bottom half of a rarely used blue trail that was widened. History: the trail that became the big terrain park was a teaching area decades ago.

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    • ne_skier August 27, 2021 / 5:09 pm

      Will be interesting to see who takes Massanutten’s J-Bar. Being a Magic passholder it would make a perfect terrain park lift for them. Much better than the existing tube tow.

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  2. skiz August 27, 2021 / 4:34 pm

    i understand the opposition to the gondola, but if they dont do that they will end up with loud busses and roadkill and more pollution.

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    • Utah Lost Ski Area Project August 27, 2021 / 5:08 pm

      Not just environmental concerns, people on the Little Cottonwood road is just straight up dangerous. Snow tires and all wheel drive are needed to make it up the road in the winter. For the amount of accidents caused by the road and the pollution from cars, I still don’t see why the environmentalists are freaking out. Out of the other options for Little Cottonwood, widening the road would be a huge environmental impact (I don’t know how that would even work) and adding more busses wouldn’t do anything. The existing busses aren’t heavily used to begin with and with the lack of usage with the bus service, it is more vehicles on the road. Doing nothing is not an option either.

      It’s not like gondolas are that much of an environmental impact. With the claim that fossil fuels are being used to run the gondola, there’s always the option of solar (https://www.remontees-mecaniques.net/bdd/site-la-paz-1051.html). Some of the claims the environmentalists were making appeared that they were trying to shoot down the project without knowing the details first.

      It’s not like a gondola is out of character for the area either. Gondola transport is being heavily considered on the other side of the canyon in Park City. Similar access lifts exist, examples being the gondola at Silver Mountain and many in Europe (Kanin in Slovenia comes to mind).

      Either way, something needs to be done at Little Cottonwood.

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      • skitheeast August 27, 2021 / 7:04 pm

        It actually boggles my mind how Save Our Canyons is using a sightlines argument for environmental purposes (even though they have done it before and will likely do it again). Any solution to improve or modify the road changes the actual environment, so true environmentalists would prioritize any aerial solution that does not do this. This faux environmentalism is simply rooted in their desire to keep LCC for themselves and dissuade newcomers from enjoying it as well.

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        • Donald Reif August 27, 2021 / 8:41 pm

          It would be so much better if they just admitted to their selfishness.

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        • julestheshiba August 28, 2021 / 1:32 pm

          I agree whenever I see “environmental” opposition to things like this it really angers me. Something like the Squaw Alpine gondola had the same type of opposition despite the fact that it would actually be beneficial to the environment.

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        • Utah Lost Ski Area Project August 29, 2021 / 2:03 pm

          That is exactly my point. These groups are more focused on the enviromental eyesore rather than the actual impact. Some of the ski area proposals these groups are against make sense in that an animal habitat is threatened, but the major complaints aren’t about habitats. They’re about problems that have already been addressed in the proposals.

          The last terrain expansion by a ski resort in Little Cottonwood was Mineral Basin in 1999. The reason for opposition could be that the groups have a legacy to keep up and will do everything they can to keep Little Cottonwood the same as it was 30 years ago.

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  3. skitheeast August 27, 2021 / 7:12 pm

    I have always been surprised as to why the county is even involved in the Pandora expansion. Isn’t the expansion, or at least the lift, entirely on USFS land, meaning it is a federal, not county, issue? And if Aspen is instead the owner, giving the county some jurisdiction, why not do a land swap with the USFS to give them the land and, therefore, the ability to approve the project? I just feel as though there is probably a way to bypass the county and go to the much friendlier USFS, which would absolutely make Pitkin County executives upset, but at this point be worth it due to the ridiculousness of the process.

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    • SCSkier August 28, 2021 / 12:26 pm

      It is partially on private land which is owned by skico but has been zoned for minimal development. SkiCo has straight up threatened to build mcmansions on it to spite the county board if they don’t change the zoning which is a pretty hilarious flex but also they should do it haha.

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    • pbropetech August 28, 2021 / 9:27 pm

      The Pitkin BOCC thinks re-zoning the Pandora parcel for ski area development would open the door to overdevelopment in other parts of the county. The current zoning allows for super-low density housing only. I think the Pitkin commissioners are being paranoid, as well as a bit snarky with SkiCo. Much of Ajax is on private land dating back to mining claims from the 1880s, so the Forest Service has little to say about it.

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  4. Donald Reif August 27, 2021 / 8:40 pm

    Breck appears to be using a new font for the trail and chairlift labels.

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    • Coloski August 28, 2021 / 1:08 pm

      New font or not, you have no idea how stoked I am about ski season.

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      • Luke August 28, 2021 / 5:47 pm

        That new chair is going to be sweet.

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  5. Ryan Murphy August 28, 2021 / 2:42 pm

    I’m still not sure what my proffered solution is, but everyone can agree the situation in LCC isn’t tenable long term. Something needs to change, especially as Salt Lake keeps growing, and much of that is concentrated on the south side, in South Jordan and Lehi, where Alta and Snowbird are the closest of the big ski areas.

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  6. Randy August 31, 2021 / 4:13 pm

    Alpine Valley, MI now shows a ski pass option with Bittersweet, Alpine Valley, WI, Pine Knob, Searchmont, so it looks like it was purchased by Wisconsin Resorts,

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