News Roundup: SLI Retirements

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  1. Jacob's avatar Jacob May 2, 2025 / 5:03 pm

    Ski Cooper also looking for a used high – speed quad, but the cost of a trip across the midwest would probably not be within the budget.

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    • Ben's avatar Ben May 2, 2025 / 7:43 pm

      That would be huge, the ride up the front side is so slow. I find it better to lap Piney Basin or Little Horse. Although the Tennessee Creek Basin addition was great, the overall terrain is still lacking for upper intermediate, advanced, and expert skiers. Although the Piney Basin addition was great. Has there been anymore chatter about a lift up Chicago Ridge or restarting the cat operation at least? With a high speed quad on the front side and then a lift up Chicago Ridge, Ski Cooper could become an actual destination.

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    • Ben's avatar Ben May 2, 2025 / 7:43 pm

      That would be huge, the ride up the front side is so slow. I find it better to lap Piney Basin or Little Horse. Although the Tennessee Creek Basin addition was great, the overall terrain is still lacking for upper intermediate, advanced, and expert skiers. Although the Piney Basin addition was great. Has there been anymore chatter about a lift up Chicago Ridge or restarting the cat operation at least? With a high speed quad on the front side and then a lift up Chicago Ridge, Ski Cooper could become an actual destination.

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    • Cameron Halmrast's avatar Cameron Halmrast May 2, 2025 / 9:57 pm

      Since Ski Cooper is a 501(c)3, the the Crowley family could donate the lift to them as a tax write off under Polar Beverages. It may also be able to do be able to write off the transportation costs too.

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      • Cameron Halmrast's avatar Cameron Halmrast May 2, 2025 / 10:03 pm

        Ski Cooper is a 501(c)4 and not a 501(c)3 like Bogus Basin. Therefore, it’s not possible for the Crowley family to donate the lift as a tax write off. A 501(c)4 is a social welfare organization, like a sports league.

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  2. Kool Gye's avatar Kool Gye May 2, 2025 / 7:30 pm

    I was just at DV east village a couple days back, and all I can say is that it’s ridiculous that Alterra is putting (at the very least) hundreds of millions of dollars into a ski resort. Meanwhile even Palisades only has gotten around one lift every five years. All that money that could be spent elsewhere is going to 9 lifts in a year, a new village, and new terrain at a mountain that doesn’t even have snow in mid April. Whatever. It’s not my money.

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    • Pat's avatar Pat May 2, 2025 / 7:57 pm

      Alterra is just the operator. Extell Development Company Is the owner and developer of the DV expansion formally known as Mayflower and the one footing the bill. It is a partnership.

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      • Anthony's avatar Anthony May 3, 2025 / 9:56 pm

        I actually don’t think we know for sure who is paying for the lifts and other mountain infrastructure. It is a reasonable assumption that Extell is paying something, but we do know that DV/Alterra specified the Doppelmayr equipment.

        This would be a very interesting nugget to find out.

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        • skitheeast's avatar skitheeast May 4, 2025 / 1:51 pm

          Even though Alterra did make some specifications as for what equipment to install, Extell is paying for the infrastructure, which includes the lifts. Any increase in cost for Extell is more than offset by having the Deer Valley brand attached to the project.

          Alterra is paying for operational expenses, which includes actually running and maintaining the lifts.

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    • SilverSubaru's avatar SilverSubaru May 3, 2025 / 11:35 am

      As far as I can tell palisades management is a complete umm well you know. They rushed the B2B gondola on a wind prone line and spent a TON of money already, it seems like Alterra might have reservations of spending even more money over there.

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      • Kool Gye's avatar Kool Gye May 3, 2025 / 4:48 pm

        Yeah I think the amount of money spent on the base to base is insane. Most locals didn’t want it anyway. It could have been better spent on another lift replacement (like maybe resort chair to a quad or hsq) or something like bubble chairs for headwall or sibo. Pat, thanks for the reply, that makes a little more sense.

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      • Chris's avatar Chris May 5, 2025 / 8:33 am

        Having skied a couple days at both sides of Palisades I’m not too interested in the B2B gondola just like my local friends (or because of them?).

        But to me Palisades seem pretty uptodate for an American ski resort. What do you think is missing?

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    • skitheeast's avatar skitheeast May 4, 2025 / 1:57 pm

      Alterra has done a pretty good job spending money at all of their resorts out west. Full Steam Ahead at Steamboat, connecting Alpine/Olympic at Palisades Tahoe (with additional lifts beyond the gondola), the ongoing transformation of Winter Park, replacing the two busiest lifts at Mammoth (with more projects coming up), etc. The two notable exceptions are Crystal, where they have had regulatory issues, and June, which frankly struggles to attract enough skiers to warrant a large investment.

      You may not agree with how the money is being spent, but plenty of money is being spent.

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  3. wh2oshredder's avatar wh2oshredder May 2, 2025 / 8:42 pm

    If Bear Back 2.0 is the first S-Line in NA, what is the model of other Doppelmayr surface lifts built recently?

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  4. Eric Weinberger's avatar Eric Weinberger May 4, 2025 / 9:04 am

    The KitzSki article is paywalled…. do you have the whole thing? (German is fine.)

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