News Roundup: Moving Parts


25 thoughts on “News Roundup: Moving Parts

  1. Anonymous April 30, 2021 / 12:26 pm

    Yes! I read the Seattle Times. The thing which I don’t agree about, though, is that they said The Summit at Snoqualmie was a “distant third in a two-horse race.” In my opinion, The Summit at Snoqualmie is equal with Stevens Pass and Crystal is ahead.


    • Muni April 30, 2021 / 3:18 pm

      I read it as Boyne was a distant third to Vail and Alterra. I’m not sure I agree with that either, since Alterra is not “all of Ikon”.


      • Vintage Chairlifts April 30, 2021 / 11:13 pm

        They were talking about Boyne nationwide, not Snoqualmie as a share of the Seattle market.


  2. Myles Svec April 30, 2021 / 1:07 pm

    Did Steamboat apply for approval on both stages of Wild Blue or just the first?


    • Peter Landsman April 30, 2021 / 1:13 pm

      The lower stage was already approved. The new approval is for the longer upper segment.


  3. Phoenix April 30, 2021 / 1:16 pm

    It looks like the Argo lift line has already been cut (unless that’s a new fire break or something). Any idea how long that project is stalled?

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  4. skitheeast April 30, 2021 / 1:31 pm

    Red Dog is already done for the season and KT’s last day is today, allowing the gondola to move forward full steam ahead.


    • nvskier April 30, 2021 / 6:58 pm

      Red Dog was spinning briefly today and I saw people on it from the parking lot, but I imagine it was just lift maintenance staff preparing to dismantle it to move the bottom terminal.


      • Ryan April 30, 2021 / 10:14 pm

        Turning. Spinning is something old ladies do with sewing machines.


        • nvskier April 30, 2021 / 10:28 pm

          I don’t know about that. Lifts spinning is very common phrase. At least in Tahoe. Maybe it’s a west coast vs east coast thing like soda vs pop/coke? I’ve heard turning but usually from tourists.


        • pbropetech May 2, 2021 / 7:52 am

          When I call in a lift reopened after a breakdown, I say ‘such-and-such lift is turning’. But in the morning meeting, and on our ski report, we say ‘we’ll have x lifts spinning today. Hadn’t thought about it until you guys brought it up.


      • Ryan May 2, 2021 / 2:31 pm

        Well Its just a pet peeve is all. Just like that girly term “Spinning class” for pedaling on exercise bikes.


  5. Kevin R April 30, 2021 / 4:16 pm

    What is the access like for building this lift?
    Road’s etc?
    There must be huge amounts of snow to move for any road opening?


    • Kirk April 30, 2021 / 4:46 pm

      You mean the base to base at Squaw? Most will be built by helicopter. Only road access is the east side road (super sketch) on KT and some road on white wolf property. Permit does not allow for new road construction so sky cranes will be very busy all summer and fall.


      • Rob Withey April 30, 2021 / 10:34 pm

        That assuming they can get them. During the fire season most heli companies lease the heavies to the forest service and typically aren’t available for lift construction.


        • Paul Hothersall April 30, 2021 / 10:45 pm

          my buddy runs Siller Helicopters, with its own fleet of Skycranes located over in nearby Yuba City. He also skis, and the family has a nearby house to Squaw near Tahoe lakefront. I guarantee that weekend overtime for pilots / staff might be on the table if thats what it takes.


        • Rob Withey May 1, 2021 / 8:25 am

          Once those aircraft are committed to a fire contract, they don’t come home on weekends. Another problem is the maximum number of hours the pilots can fly and mandated rest days.


    • nvskier April 30, 2021 / 7:08 pm

      They cut the service road under KT with snowcats the other day and it’s been groomed and open to the public but I imagine they will try to clear the snow off of it as soon as possible. Which probably won’t take much effort because after skiing it today, it’s obvious that they kept the bare minimum amount of snow on it to safely ski it for a couple days. There were a lot of dirt patches poking through by the afternoon and with temps in the 60s it may melt out in just a few more days.


  6. nvskier April 30, 2021 / 7:12 pm

    Kudos to whoever snapped those pictures of the B2B gondola tower heads. I saw them in the lot today and took almost identical pics but someone beat me to it!


  7. May 1, 2021 / 3:45 am

    Hello! What is the source of your ORDA numbers? From what we saw they certainly look spot on. Great work, as usual.


    • Peter Landsman May 1, 2021 / 5:17 am

      Go to the 4:00 minute mark in the board meeting video I linked to.


  8. Kevin R May 1, 2021 / 7:44 am

    Is there road access to where the top terminals will be? As a former project manager for Doppelmayr I wonder why they are trying to get the project done in one construction season especially with all the snow that is probably not accessible with a snow cat to move or else with a shovel before they start digging and then the daily logistics of getting the workers to work?
    I agree with the fellow who mentioned the sky cranes and the increasing need for them during the longer and longer fire season


    • Kirk May 1, 2021 / 8:33 am

      Roads to all terminals, although no Highway to the top of KT. Not much snow for this time of year at Squaw. Snowpack as low as 25% in some parts of the Sierra.


    • pbropetech May 2, 2021 / 7:54 am

      Agreed, Kevin. One short summer is a stretch for a lift this size. Curious to see how it goes.


  9. pbropetech May 2, 2021 / 8:05 am

    The article about Crystal and Stevens is…. interesting. It appears that neither one is at all like what I experienced there growing up, or working (at Crystal, not Stevens). When I was at Baker in the late 90s we had a good relationship with the guys at Stevens, and there was a huge amount of institutional knowledge across departments. Looks like that’s all gone now, and with it the ability to open lifts and terrain in a reasonable fashion. Crystal was the South Puget Sound dirtbag mecca- there were some wealthier folks but the majority of skiers there were average types. Alterra may be going for the ‘skier not guest’ market as Crystal has always done, but they seem to be aiming for the upper income bracket within that demographic. I see that attitude further squeezing people out up there, and I think the four Snoqalmie areas are going to see more crowding as a result. Whether people will make the longer drive to White is an open question. Time for someone to resurrect Mt Pilchuck, no?

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