News Roundup: Many Uses


24 thoughts on “News Roundup: Many Uses

  1. Peter Landsman December 10, 2021 / 10:22 am

    The additional quad at Jack Frost will replace East Mountain I & II. The additional quad at Big Boulder is replacing Merry Widow I & II. Total of 5 new quads replacing 9 doubles and triples.


  2. Tom December 10, 2021 / 11:09 am

    Peter, on your database for 2022 new lifts, all the lifts at Jack Frost are new ones, what happened to the used triple, the old green triple chairlift from okemo?


  3. Tom December 10, 2021 / 11:42 am

    Peter, sorry you answered most of my ? In the Twitter feed, do you have any insights where the green triple will go?


    • Peter Landsman December 10, 2021 / 11:44 am

      My guess is the scrap yard. I heard it was going to take a lot of work to get it up to current code.


      • Tom December 10, 2021 / 2:08 pm

        Peter, thanks for the update,


  4. jaytrem December 10, 2021 / 12:19 pm

    Hopefully they’re holding off for a high speed lift for where the D double double resides. Surprised they’re doing Eastside first, never much of a line over there.


    • Tom December 10, 2021 / 2:07 pm

      High speed at Jack Frost?


      • Jaytrem December 10, 2021 / 3:08 pm

        Camelback, Blue and Shawnee all have at least 1. A man can dream! But yeah, probably not happening.


    • skitheeast December 10, 2021 / 2:22 pm

      I doubt Jack Frost gets a high-speed lift.

      D I & II are slightly younger than E I & II, so that could factor in why they are getting replaced first. However, in all honesty, I am surprised E is getting replaced at all given its age. If the goal is to remove all Borvig lifts, why not replace A? If the goal is to remove redundant lifts to reduce maintenance or the number of employees needed, why not replace D I & II?


  5. Mi_skier December 10, 2021 / 2:40 pm

    little disappointed looking at the future plans for Boyne Highlands (or Highlands at Harbor Springs-why?). they have one of the worst lift networks I’ve ever seen with their newest lift being a HSQ installed 1990, with the rest being 1960’s and 70’s Riblets. their site has almost nothing on any ski upgrades in the near future.


    • Mi_skier December 10, 2021 / 2:42 pm

      nevermind. I looked into it a little more and they do have some plans out with an 8 coming in a couple years. sorry


      • Tom December 10, 2021 / 2:47 pm

        After riding the 8 at big sky, not sure I like them, the lift towers are just huge and I think distract from the beauty of the ski resort, in my opinion


  6. Peter December 10, 2021 / 3:48 pm

    Random question, does Vail’s entire ski resort portfolio in the East combined even have more acreage than the actual Vail Ski Resort in Colorado?


    • Tom December 10, 2021 / 4:50 pm

      My Guess no, I added up all the open resorts in Vermont, a few years back, a couple of changes since then, but that came to 7300 acres if my memory is correct, remember killington is huge in acreages.


      • Myles Svec December 10, 2021 / 5:21 pm

        7300 is bigger than Vail then.


        • Tom December 10, 2021 / 9:15 pm

          But that’s every resort in Vermont, Stratton ,killington , Smuggs, jay peak etc


      • Peter December 10, 2021 / 5:40 pm

        Vail doesn’t own Killington, I was referring to just Vail owned resorts in the east


    • skitheeast December 10, 2021 / 5:53 pm

      VT: 1717 acres, NH: 868 acres, NY: 320 acres, PA: 454 acres (not including the new additions). That would be 3,359 acres as of now. Vail is 5,317 acres, and no three PA resorts will boost the east coast total enough to match.

      For some comparison, Snowmass is 3,342 acres, so that is about the same size as all of Vail’s northeast and mid-atlantic portfolio.


      • Tom December 10, 2021 / 9:18 pm

        That just shows you how big vail is, one mtn, or any big western resort


        • skitheeast December 10, 2021 / 11:36 pm

          That is true. However, I will add that Vail is missing some of the largest resorts in VT. Killington, Stratton, Smuggs, and Sugarbush combine to be 3,779 acres, which beats all of Vail’s east coast resorts as well.


  7. Tom December 11, 2021 / 6:25 am

    Till vail buys Smuggs and combines them into a larger Stowe ski resort


  8. skitheeast December 11, 2021 / 2:42 pm

    Vail selling 2.1 million Epic Passes is 50% more than last year. Assuming average price dropped 20% like their prices, revenue increased by 20% relative to last year. That also excludes people who upgraded from Epic Local to a full pass (or some other upgrade) with the lower prices.

    Would Epic Pass sales have jumped 20%+ without the pass price cut? I guess Vail thinks not.

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  9. Snowmaster December 11, 2021 / 2:52 pm

    That Comp Hill T Bar at Sugarloaf will fill the gap when the double runners get replaced with a fixed quad ending at the bottom of the Spillway quad. The new T-Bar will get you up to the bottom of Bateau on wind hold days.


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